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No loophole tax system

Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:43 am
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:43 am
How many here would be for a "no loophole" tax system for individuals and for corps?

Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:43 am to
I am for a simple tax system

A tax system that can be filled out on one page
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67105 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:44 am to
Pf course. It's called the Fair Tax Act. look it up
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:45 am to
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How many here would be for a "no loophole" tax system for individuals and for corps?
Define "loophole."
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:49 am to
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Define "loophole."


Yeah, will never happen It's the only thing the government has to control corporations and citizens, to the point where many corporations would suffer greatly because of it....
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:51 am to
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:51 am to
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Define "loophole."


No tax breaks for anything.

Corps... say 5% for those under a million. 6% for those between a million and 5 million. 7% for above 5 million to 10 million. etc etc...

Individuals.. 7% across the board.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:52 am to
Some people consider depreciation of a capital asset for a business as a loophole. The same for business development expenses for a company, such as entertaining a prospective customer to get his business.

For individuals, the home mortgage interest deduction is considered a loophole by many people as well as charitable contributions.

So, again, what is a loophole?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:55 am to
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No tax breaks for anything.
This tells me nothing. What is a "tax break"?

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Corps... say 5% for those under a million.
Under a "million" of what? Sales revenue?? Net income? If it's net income, what expenses are allowed to be deducted and not considered a loophole?

quote:

Individuals.. 7% across the board.

7% of what???
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:56 am to
quote:

So, again, what is a loophole?


Again.. NO tax deductions. The code would read simply this: All citizens shall pay 7% on income.

All corps will pay x% up to this amount made. x% in this range. etc etc.

quote:

7% of what???


Your income. You make 10K a year. You pay 7%. You make 10 million a year... you pay 7%
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 12:00 pm
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:58 am to
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Under a "million" of what? Sales revenue?? Net income? If it's net income, what expenses are allowed to be deducted and not considered a loophole?



There ARE NO deductions. All income.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:00 pm to
I am for X% across the board no deductions no exemptions. I think the capital gains rate of 15% is good. the problem is the govt. will always claim it isn't enough and want to raise it.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

All corps will pay x% up to this amount made. x% in this range. etc etc.

What is "amount made"???
quote:

All citizens shall pay 7% on income.

What is income? If I give my kid $1,000 for his birthday, is that income to the kid?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:01 pm to
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There ARE NO deductions. All income.

Then no, I would not be in favor of that.

ETA: And that is not "income." That is sales revenue you are taxing, not income. That is why I would be opposed to the idea.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

What is income?


Wages earned.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118843 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

A tax system that can be filled out on one page


3"x5" index card should be sufficient.

17% flat tax on all income above $50,000.

You make $100,000 you pay $8,500.

But that's too easy.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101453 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Wages earned.


How does a corporation "earn" "wages"?
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:06 pm to
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ETA: And that is not "income." That is sales revenue you are taxing, not income. That is why I would be opposed to the idea.



fair enough. Tweak it. What would be acceptable for you.
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

How does a corporation "earn" "wages"?



That's for individuals.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

What is income?



Wages earned.

Self employed individuals, like me, don't earn wages. So, again, what is "income"?
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