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re: Newest House proposal is $61 billion for Ukraine, $26 billion for Israel.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:45 pm to Taketts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:45 pm to Taketts
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come on Ukraine is fighting for it's survival!
More power to them.
Not one more cent of US tax dollars should be pumped into a sinking ship.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 1:58 pm to Pecker
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If we don't fight Hamas over there, we'll have to fight them over here. Also, Iran is the "largest state sponsor of terrorism". Never mind that they're Shia and that our terrorist adversaries have always been Sunni Wahhabists.
Too late. They are pouring across our border.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:10 pm to loogaroo
Aid to any of them should be in the form of old military hardware that we're cycling out anyway. Cash is bullshite.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:12 pm to Taketts
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Can someone tell me why conservatives are so strongly opposed to Ukraine aid? I
Its not our war.
People screamed for decades about American "hegemony" how plead for America to get involved in Eastern Europe.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:22 pm to hogcard1964
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Completely as$ backwards.
Israel gets aid in regular appropriations bills too, so that isn't all they get.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:39 pm to Taketts
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Do you guys really have no pity at all for Ukraine?
Not one ounce...
Posted on 4/17/24 at 2:46 pm to alphaandomega
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My proposal is zero to either. If they want to buy arms we should sell them but the days of money giveaways is over.
We owe trillions.
Yep, totally agree, but Congress acts like little kids with $100 in a candy store!!
Posted on 4/17/24 at 3:42 pm to loogaroo
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Along with the $61 billion for Ukraine, the bills would allocate more than $26 billion for Israel ....That includes $9.2 billion in humanitarian aid for civilian-packed Gaza.....
The package also provides $8 billion for self-ruled Taiwan
Johnson had refused to let (the previous senate) $95 billion package through, as Republicans wrangled over Biden's immigration policies.
61+26+8 = 95 Billion and still no immigration law enforcement.
#FireMikeJohnson
https://www.ktbs.com/news/national/republican-leader-finally-announces-ukraine-israel-war-aid-vote/article_6420a121-6817-55b8-9554-da399aa5b8a1.html
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:24 pm to Taketts
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Can someone tell me why conservatives are so strongly opposed to Ukraine aid? I'm just baffled by this. Do you guys really have no pity at all for Ukraine? Note that I'm not some bleeding heart liberal, I am a conservative too but like, come on Ukraine is fighting for it's survival!
It's complex, but there are a handful of thoughts that play into my lack of support for Ukraine. I do have plenty of sympathy for the people there and do wish they weren't going through what they are, but America does not have the money to support an issue that is not our issue while simultaneously ignoring our own issues here at home.
If we can just pile on billions of more debt to launder money into Ukranian corruption, why can't Ukraine just take on the debt themselves?
I could at least entertain Trump's proposal that aid be provided in the form of a loan that everyone knows the next liberal administration would just forgive anyway after the ext whoever administration allows forbearance
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:34 pm to loogaroo
Let's see here......
1. Ukraine
2. Israel
3. Taiwan
Joe Biden schemes for war and profit. Donald Trump schemes for Peace and Prosperity.
It's that simple.
Trump 2024 - He Has a Record on Peace
1. Ukraine
2. Israel
3. Taiwan
Joe Biden schemes for war and profit. Donald Trump schemes for Peace and Prosperity.
It's that simple.
Trump 2024 - He Has a Record on Peace
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:41 pm to loogaroo
And y’all are mad about forgiving student loan debt.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:47 pm to loogaroo
The Israel-first wing of MAGA should be ecstatic
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:22 pm to loogaroo
If you need any more proof that the folks in Washington despise American citizens, this is it.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:25 pm to ForeverGator
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And y’all are mad about forgiving student loan debt.
That is Bush's program. Biden is just trying to take credit for it.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:28 pm to udtiger
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And border? Our border?
quote:LINK
Republican leaders published the bills Wednesday proposing to split foreign aid into four separate bills focusing on Israel, Ukraine, and Taiwan. A fourth bill is expected later in the day focusing on other defense measures to “strengthen our national security.” The legislation comes after months of disagreement between both parties on how to provide foreign aid, leaving Congress at a standstill.
Johnson informed Republican lawmakers the bills would be brought to the floor under an open amendment process, allowing members to propose additional measures before a final vote.
The four bills will be paired together under a single rules package before being brought to the floor later this week for individual votes. After that, the surviving votes will be packaged together into a single piece of legislation and be sent to the Senate.
The package includes a $26.38 billion package for Israel; a $60.84 trillion package for Ukraine, and $8.12 billion to go toward Taiwan. The proposal also includes a fourth bill that would combine a number of other national security measures, including legislation to force China to divest in TikTok as well as the REPO Act, a proposal to seize frozen Russian assets and transfer them to the Ukrainian government to fight against the Kremlin.
Johnson also informed lawmakers there would be a separate bill coming to the floor this week that would focus solely on border security after threats from some House lawmakers to shoot down the measure if those provisions were not included.
It’s not entirely clear what the border bill will entail as the text has not yet been published, but Johnson said it would include “core components” of H.R. 2, Republicans’ signature border bill that passed the House last year but has since been stalled in the Senate.
All five of the bills are expected to be debated throughout the week, with a final vote on Saturday evening.
Under typical House procedure, a bill is brought to the floor under a rule that must be approved by lawmakers before it can be debated or voted on. A rule is historically passed along party lines and rarely fails on the House floor. However, House conservatives have weaponized the procedure several times over the last year, tanking key pieces of legislation and stalling action on the floor.
It is in a separate bill which will be released later this afternoon or tonight.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:54 pm to LSUbest
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Not a tin can for our border.
The bipartisan border bill is ready for a vote. Johnson refused to even allow debate because Trump wanted to promote chaos at the border. They should bring it up for a vote too.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:57 pm to Zarkinletch416
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Trump schemes for Peace and Prosperity.
Trump signed into law the bill that will greatly increase your income taxes next year
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:11 pm to loogaroo
MuH compromise. reach across the isle. what a bunch of losers.
these are the types of Republicans our local Ronbots and bitchboys want us to elect. the "electable" types. it doesn't matter if they never get anything they want. just get dunked on by the dems at every turn.
these are the types of Republicans our local Ronbots and bitchboys want us to elect. the "electable" types. it doesn't matter if they never get anything they want. just get dunked on by the dems at every turn.
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