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re: New York Rabbi Says There's No Such Thing As A Civilian In Gaza
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:26 am to trackfan
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:26 am to trackfan
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One of the classic tactics of bigots (eg. Jesse Jackson, Alan Dershowitz, etc.) is to play the racism card as frivolously you and FOX do
I challenge you to find a bigoted comment I've made, especially regarding Muslims. People see through your facade and it is pissing you off.
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:26 am to trackfan
It doesn't matter what a Rabbi in NY thinks.
But civilians in Gaza, like civilians in Japan during WWII, civilians in Germany in WWII, and civilians in the South in the Civil War, etc. pay a price for supporting a govt. that is fighting a war and eventually if the war comes to their homeland there will be civilian deaths.
Hamas was elected by the civilians in Gaza. They are building tunnels in Gaza communities. They are fortifying Gaza communities and firing rockets throughout these communities.
These civilians are responsible for a certain extent for letting this happen just as Japanese civilians, and German civilians were in WWII.
It is unfortunate, but its a fact of life.
But civilians in Gaza, like civilians in Japan during WWII, civilians in Germany in WWII, and civilians in the South in the Civil War, etc. pay a price for supporting a govt. that is fighting a war and eventually if the war comes to their homeland there will be civilian deaths.
Hamas was elected by the civilians in Gaza. They are building tunnels in Gaza communities. They are fortifying Gaza communities and firing rockets throughout these communities.
These civilians are responsible for a certain extent for letting this happen just as Japanese civilians, and German civilians were in WWII.
It is unfortunate, but its a fact of life.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:44 am to trackfan
I'm still waiting on an example of my bigotry.
You made an unwarranted accusation.
You made an unwarranted accusation.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:51 am to trackfan
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How do you determine which one of Gaza's 2 million people "let" and which ones didn't?
Uh, the owner of the house would be in play. Seems extremely obvious.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:58 am to Zach
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Uh, the owner of the house would be in play. Seems extremely obvious.
That's fair, but I don't think the Rabbi made the distinction you are making.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:59 am to TK421
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I challenge you to find a bigoted comment I've made, especially regarding Muslims. People see through your facade and it is pissing you off.
I challenge you to find a single bigoted somment I've made about Jews or any other group of people.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:03 pm to trackfan
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That's fair, but I don't think the Rabbi made the distinction you are making.
Correct. But that might be his thinking and left out of the context. Dunno.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:03 pm to trackfan
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I challenge you to find a single bigoted somment I've made about Jews or any other group of people.
You've already admitted to hating a subset of Jews in this thread.
You defended your bigotry by attacking me. Now prove your allegations you coward.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:03 pm to doubleb
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It doesn't matter what a Rabbi in NY thinks.
But civilians in Gaza, like civilians in Japan during WWII, civilians in Germany in WWII, and civilians in the South in the Civil War, etc. pay a price for supporting a govt. that is fighting a war and eventually if the war comes to their homeland there will be civilian deaths.
Hamas was elected by the civilians in Gaza. They are building tunnels in Gaza communities. They are fortifying Gaza communities and firing rockets throughout these communities.
These civilians are responsible for a certain extent for letting this happen just as Japanese civilians, and German civilians were in WWII.
It is unfortunate, but its a fact of life.
I follow you, but do you also believe Israeli civilians are fair game in this war? What about American civilians whenever we're at war with another country? Does your rationale apply to the civilians of all nations that are at war?
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:07 pm to trackfan
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I follow you, but do you also believe Israeli civilians are fair game in this war? What about American civilians whenever we're at war with another country? Does your rationale apply to the civilians of all nations that are at war?
Of course civilians of any warring nation are at risk of being casualties of war. What a silly question.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:08 pm to trackfan
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I follow you, but do you also believe Israeli civilians are fair game in this war? What about American civilians whenever we're at war with another country? Does your rationale apply to the civilians of all nations that are at war?
What's the rationale that Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda et al use in their attack on civilians?
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:09 pm to TK421
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You've already admitted to hating a subset of Jews in this thread.
I said I hated Likud, not Jews? Do you really believe it's wrong to hate a specific group of people based based on their beliefs and actions? Does hating Al Qaeda or ISIS make one an Islamophobe? Does hating the KKK make one a racist? Does hating the IRA make one an anti-Catholic bigot? Take some time to get your thoughts together because so far you aren't making any sense.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:11 pm to imjustafatkid
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Of course civilians of any warring nation are at risk of being casualties of war. What a silly question.
Silly question? Perhaps you should take it up with the folks who drew up the Geneva's Convention for making such a "silly" distinction between civilians and combatants?
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:13 pm to trackfan
Good grief.
Civilians take hits in conflicts despite the GC.
Not anything new.
Civilians take hits in conflicts despite the GC.
Not anything new.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:15 pm to the808bass
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What's the rationale that Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda et al use in their attack on civilians?
I don't think anyone on this board has ever claimed that those groups have never targeted civilians, but all I'm saying if another nation does it, they lose the right to condemn others for doing it, because what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:15 pm to trackfan
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There's No Such Thing As A Civilian In Gaza
Agreed. In war, there are no civilians, there is just the enemy. Had we thought of German and Japanese civilians as such, we wouldn't have won the war as quickly as we did.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:15 pm to trackfan
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Do you really believe it's wrong to hate a specific group of people based based on their beliefs and actions?
Sure, if it is a convenient cover for your real feelings. It's like saying: "I don't hate all blacks, just the ones that listen to rap music"
Still waiting on you to show how I'm bigoted.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:16 pm to trackfan
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I don't think anyone on this board has ever claimed that those groups have never targeted civilians, but all I'm saying if another nation does it, they lose the right to condemn others for doing it, because what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
So you're saying Israel had the high ground.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:17 pm to trackfan
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Here's Rabbi David-Seth Kirshner in his own words being interviewed by MSNBC's Chris Hayes.
I'm not supporting either side, but quoting random people that aren't even involved in the conflict seems odd.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:18 pm to goatmilker
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Good grief.
Civilians take hits in conflicts despite the GC.
Not anything new.
Everybody here knows that, but do you personally believe civilians should betargeted? After all, it is supposedly U.S. position on civilians that distinguishes us from groups like Al Qaeda who believe civilians are fair game.
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