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New diesel and petrol cars banned from UK roads by 2040
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:42 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:42 am
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Plans to ban the sale of new diesel and petrol cars by 2040 in a bid to encourage people to buy electric vehicles are a "tall order" and will place unprecedented strain on the National Grid, motoring experts have warned
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However the AA warned that the National Grid would be under pressure to "cope with a mass switch-on after the evening rush hour", while Which? Car magazine warned that electric cars are currently more expensive and less practical
We are not alone. Other countries have foolish policy makers with no grasp on reality as well.
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:43 am to goofball
Aren't command economies great?
USSR
USSR
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:43 am to goofball
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Diesel drivers on congested roads in towns and cities across the UK face new pollution taxes and could also be barred from travelling at rush hour
How would you like your brand new car to be banned from a city at certain times?
Gasoline is taxed at a nigh higher rate than diesel in the U.K.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 6:45 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:45 am to goofball
2 things:
Good for them
It won't happen by 2040
Good for them
It won't happen by 2040
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:47 am to goofball
The "ban" is nothing but a publicity stunt.
As the year 2040 approaches if diesel and petrol cars are still necessary, the ban date will just roll into the future indefinitely.
As the year 2040 approaches if diesel and petrol cars are still necessary, the ban date will just roll into the future indefinitely.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:01 am to IAmReality
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The "ban" is nothing but a publicity stunt.
I'm not so sure. Volvo just announced a switch to all electric or hybrid by 2020. I expect to see several other European lines do this. If solar technology improves, even third world might be in play.
Can't say this makes me happy. Coupled with self driving, I'd say the era of fun cars will be over soon. Personal ownership will decline and progressives will love it. Subsidies will be provided for everyone. It will be like east Germany again and we're all driving Trabants.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:08 am to goofball
They'll have to buy a lot of coal, nuclear, and gas generated electricity to charge all those "green" cars.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:08 am to udtiger
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Aren't command economies great?
USSR
but when their second 5-year plan failed they had high hopes for the third 5-year plan
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:10 am to GetBackToWork
2040 is essentially 4 generations of electric vehicles away.
Hybrid cars require gasoline or diesel to supplement electric power, so it is unlikely that a hybrid would be legal in 2040 if they don't change their rules. Currently, the most affordable long range EV you can buy (200+ mile range) is the Chevy Bolt. It's a compact car and it costs over $30K USD after tax credits.
The switch to electric is not going to be easy for people on a budget. There's virtually no used electric car inventory yet. It will probably be another decade or more before affordable, used EVs become available en masse.
The energy grid in the UK is probably also due for some upgrades. There is a lot of costs to consumers and taxpayers here. This would hit the poor especially hard.
Hybrid cars require gasoline or diesel to supplement electric power, so it is unlikely that a hybrid would be legal in 2040 if they don't change their rules. Currently, the most affordable long range EV you can buy (200+ mile range) is the Chevy Bolt. It's a compact car and it costs over $30K USD after tax credits.
The switch to electric is not going to be easy for people on a budget. There's virtually no used electric car inventory yet. It will probably be another decade or more before affordable, used EVs become available en masse.
The energy grid in the UK is probably also due for some upgrades. There is a lot of costs to consumers and taxpayers here. This would hit the poor especially hard.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:11 am to goofball
It takes much energy and waste to produce batteries for the automotive industry: A LOT of pollution.
The Power plants will have to increase output to meet the higher demand for charging battery cars. More pollution.
It's going to take a whole lot of oil to produce car batteries.
Oil is a naturally reoccurring substance that had been used since the beginning of time for cooking, fuel, and technologies.
Why is there such fear of oil? Because it causes blackheads?
The Power plants will have to increase output to meet the higher demand for charging battery cars. More pollution.
It's going to take a whole lot of oil to produce car batteries.
Oil is a naturally reoccurring substance that had been used since the beginning of time for cooking, fuel, and technologies.
Why is there such fear of oil? Because it causes blackheads?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:11 am to GetBackToWork
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Volvo just announced a switch to all electric or hybrid by 2020.
Don't most car companies already claim their cars are hybrids? They'll just put hybrid in front of its name and say it is.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:12 am to IAmReality
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As the year 2040 approaches if diesel and petrol cars are still necessary, the ban date will just roll into the future indefinitely.
Assuming logic prevails over progressive tears and fear mongering.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:13 am to BestBanker
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Why is there such fear of oil?
it props up islam
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:13 am to IAmReality
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The "ban" is nothing but a publicity stunt.
A lot of environmental accords are just pie in the sky make dumb people feel good declarations that have no foundation in reality. Here, I'll join in and make one:
I hereby declare that I will cease all release of gas from my rectum beginning the year 2020 to eliminate my total contribution to methane gas in the Earth's atmosphere.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:14 am to TrueTiger
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it props up islam
Is the UK that depended on foreign oil? I thought they had a pretty good setup in the north sea.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:16 am to goofball
Good. Very progressive of them.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:19 am to member12
Look at it this way - the government will soon be in control. The grid won't matter. It will start in a city like London. Only autonomous cars will be allowed in the city center. They will propose this for a variety of stated reasons. Network monopolies will be granted. Subsidies for all so everyone gets equal opportunity to "drive". Make no mistake, though, the government will control the scheduling and usage.
Charging will be allowed when the grid allows it. If you don't get a car so what. When have socialists ever cared about shortages.
Charging will be allowed when the grid allows it. If you don't get a car so what. When have socialists ever cared about shortages.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:22 am to LuckyTiger
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They'll have to buy a lot of coal, nuclear, and gas generated electricity to charge all those "green" cars.
I can't believe a city is allowed to ban new diesel cars that meet their national emissions standards.
There seems to be a war on diesel right now.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 7:29 am to TrueTiger
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it props up islam
No. Ignorance props up foolishness. If it's not oil, it's camels, poppies, Turkish delight.
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