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Netanyahu rejects cease-fire with Hamas; says, 'This is a time for war'

Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:09 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:09 pm
Fox News


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Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu flatly rejected calls for a cease-fire in comments to the press on Monday.

Netanyahu compared the October 7 massacre by Hamas to the Pearl Harbor and 9-11 attacks on the U.S., saying Israel is equally justified in retaliating against Hamas terrorists in Gaza. He went on to say that Israel will continue its war against Hamas "until victory."

"Calls for a cease-fire are calls for Israel to surrender to Hamas, to surrender to terrorism, to surrender to barbarism. That will not happen," Netanyahu said.

"Ladies and gentlement, the Bible says that there is a time for peace and a time for war. This is a time for war. A war for our common future," he continued. "Today we draw a line between the forces of civilization and the forces of barbarism. It is a time for everyone to decide where they stand. Israel will stand against the forces of barbarism until victory. I hope and pray that civilized nations everywhere will back this fight."

Israeli forces entered the second stage of their conflict with Hamas this week, greatly expanding ground operations within the Gaza strip. Military officials have warned that the war will be long and difficult.
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9344 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:10 pm to
Good, now let them both go at it and I'll watch from over here.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:11 pm to
Biden finna make another two trips.

One back to Israel and another down AF1’s stairs.

Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:12 pm to
Journalism sucks so bad. What are the conditions of the cease fire he rejected? Or is Netanyahu really saying there are no terms for cease fire he will accept?
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
5990 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:14 pm to
This escapade defines FA & FO.

Maybe the Israeli's have not been just to the Palestinians. That said, Hamas sent armed militants into civilian areas and shot pedestrians, motorists and people sitting in cafes down like dogs.

I have no sympathy for the hell they created for themselves.

Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46449 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:14 pm to
Papa Joe is going to need a lot more meth to get back to the holy land to fix this
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11707 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:14 pm to
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Or is Netanyahu really saying there are no terms for cease fire he will accept?


The only term should be unconditional surrender.
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1280 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:15 pm to
“We will not surrender to barbarism! Instead we will be the barbarians!”
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:15 pm to
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The only term should be unconditional surrender.

I agree. Is that what was offered? My complaint was on the weak reporting.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10925 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:16 pm to
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Journalism sucks so bad. What are the conditions of the cease fire he rejected? Or is Netanyahu really saying there are no terms for cease fire he will accept?




He's saying Israel has a mission to accomplish, and they haven't finished it yet so talks of ceasefire are premature.

Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1280 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:19 pm to
It’s funny, the other day I was looking for that Pat Buchanan quote on the “amen corner” in Washington or whatever and came across a whole list of his “antisemetic” remarks compiled by the ADL. And like some of them were clearly antisemitic. But most of them were just Buchanan saying we shouldn’t go into Iraq just because it’s what Sharon and Likud want.

quote:

Neocons say we attack them because they are Jewish. We do not. We attack them because their warmongering threatens our country, even as it finds a reliable echo in Ariel Sharon.”


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Who would benefit from a war of civilizations between the West and Islam? Answer: one nation, one leader, one party. Israel, Sharon, Likud.”


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Israel is in an existential crisis. It can wall itself off and annex what it wants on the West Bank, and leave Palestinians in tiny truncated, nonviable bantustans that will become the spawning pools of terror. Or it can give the Palestinians what Oslo, Camp David, Taba and the 'roadmap' promised; a homeland, a nation and a state of their own. Israel is free to choose. But American needs a Middle East policy made in the USA, not in Tel Aviv, or at AIPAC or AEI."


Like just obvious America first sentiments and he was vilified for them, and now every politician of consequence in both parties is lined up behind Netanyahu
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12181 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:20 pm to
Glad you weren’t President on December 7, 1941.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:22 pm to
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Or it can give the Palestinians what Oslo, Camp David, Taba and the 'roadmap' promised; a homeland, a nation and a state of their own.


It was offered but Arafat rejected it.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:22 pm to
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Like just obvious America first sentiments and he was vilified for them, and now every politician of consequence in both parties is lined up behind Netanyahu

Which is why every couple of years, the neocons decide neocon is antisemitc.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34920 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:22 pm to
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Good, now let them both go at it and I'll watch from over here.



If the US supports Israel then the war will come here.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9175 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:24 pm to
Good. All of Israel's restraint and compromise has been used up over the last decades of this same shite. Time to end it.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:24 pm to
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I agree. Is that what was offered? My complaint was on the weak reporting.

I’ve just searched for and scanned multiple publications. All news sources are posting the same Netanyahu comment—in blog format—rather than unpacking what led to his response.

In his statement a minute ago, Netanyahu didn’t recap the terms of any proffered ceasefire. Based on reports thus far, I’m not convinced anyone (apart from Netanyahu and Hamas officials) knows what the terms were.

I feel you, tho, about the limited info.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36046 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:27 pm to
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If the US supports Israel then the war will come here.


And if we don’t support Israel the war will come here.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260576 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260576 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

“We will not surrender to barbarism! Instead we will be the barbarians!”


Retaliation for homicide isnt barbaric.

Its called Justice.
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