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NASA JPL Scientist / US Citizen forced to unlock phone for CBP
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:37 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:37 am
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Bikkannavar says he was detained by US Customs and Border Patrol and pressured to give the CBP agents his phone and access PIN. Since the phone was issued by NASA, it may have contained sensitive material that wasn’t supposed to be shared. Bikkannavar’s phone was returned to him after it was searched by CBP, but he doesn’t know exactly what information officials might have taken from the device.
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Seemingly, Bikkannavar’s reentry into the country should not have raised any flags. Not only is he a natural-born US citizen, but he’s also enrolled in Global Entry — a program through CBP that allows individuals who have undergone background checks to have expedited entry into the country. He hasn’t visited the countries listed in the immigration ban and he has worked at JPL — a major center at a US federal agency — for 10 years. There, he works on “wavefront sensing and control,” a type of optics technology that will be used on the upcoming James Webb Space Telescope.
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:40 am to skrayper
Why did this guy take a NASA-issued phone with sensitive material on it on his personal trip to South America? Oh, I see...
Fake news.
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Since the phone was issued by NASA, it may have contained sensitive material that wasn’t supposed to be shared.
Fake news.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:42 am to skrayper
So what! I am asked for ID often even at my banks branches, they are doing this to protect me. That phone is not his property (phone) US Govt. and has conditions for use, including surrendering it when asked.
Bikkannavar and the entire world must try to understand the USA is my safe space.
Bikkannavar and the entire world must try to understand the USA is my safe space.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:43 am to imjustafatkid
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Why did this guy take a NASA-issued phone with sensitive material on it on his personal trip to South America? Oh, I see...
quote:
Since the phone was issued by NASA, it may have contained sensitive material that wasn’t supposed to be shared.
Fake news.
Well, it actually happened, so the news isn't "fake"
I take it you've never had a company-issued phone before.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:43 am to skrayper
No problem with this. If you are not doing anything g wrong you should have no problem with being searched.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:44 am to imjustafatkid
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This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 8:58 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:44 am to skrayper
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Sometimes I get stopped and searched, but never anything like this. Maybe you could say it was one huge coincidence that this thing happens right at the travel ban.”
Where was his outrage in previous situations?
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:44 am to skrayper
He should have called his attorney. It could have been a nice payday if he played it right.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:44 am to ItTakesAThief
quote:Sarcasm, I hope?
No problem with this. If you are not doing anything g wrong you should have no problem with being searched.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:45 am to ItTakesAThief
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No problem with this. If you are not doing anything g wrong you should have no problem with being searched.
I, personally, am not 100% keen on being part of a nanny state.
If that floats your boat, though, okay then.
Just remember that when they pull you over and strip search your wife. So long as she wasn't "doing anything wrong", she shouldn't have a problem with it, right?
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:45 am to skrayper
It's an in-perfect world, what can be said!
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:45 am to skrayper
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I take it you've never had a company-issued phone before.
If you are asking if I have ever had a company-issued phone with government-sensitive material on it that I would take on a personal trip to South America, then no. I have not.
ETA: I am outraged that this individual took possibly-sensitive government material with him on a personal trip to South America, and ABSOLUTELY believe that is suspicious on his part. The "fake news" part about this is that we're focusing on the border agents instead of the guy who actually did something wrong here.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 8:47 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:47 am to skrayper
Some of these replies are mind blowing
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:47 am to DeafJam73
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Seriously, I thought people who worked in fields that involved sensitive info to be used to being searched from time to time
Yes, by people with the clearance levels to see those things. They see all the data going to and from that phone.
Not by a guy whose clearance level is "I get to frisk you at the airport".
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:48 am to Old Hellen Yeller
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This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:48 am to imjustafatkid
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ETA: I am outraged that this individual took possibly-sensitive government material with him on a personal trip to South America, and ABSOLUTELY believe that is suspicious on his part. The "fake news" part about this is that we're focusing on the border agents instead of the guy who actually did something wrong here.
wtf
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:49 am to skrayper
ETA: I retract my statement. Re-read the article to see that it was border patrol, not NASA, who searched the phone. Yeah, that's wrong.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 8:54 am
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:49 am to imjustafatkid
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If you are asking if I have ever had a company-issued phone with government-sensitive material on it that I would take on a personal trip to South America, then no. I have not.
ETA: I am outraged that this individual took possibly-sensitive government material with him on a personal trip to South America, and ABSOLUTELY believe that is suspicious on his part. The "fake news" part about this is that we're focusing on the border agents instead of the guy who actually did something wrong here.
I'm going to presume you simply do not understand how this works.
A company-issued phone, government data on it or not, is provided so that they can get a hold of the person at all times. Even on vacation, he's on the clock.
The phone is locked. If it gets stolen, it takes a quick report and remote tools turn the thing into a brick and all data is scrubbed.
It really is a no win scenario in your mind, right? I mean, if a story was leaked that he left his phone behind to go on vacation, you'd probably insist on him being fired for being lazy.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:51 am to imjustafatkid
quote:What? You don't find it concerning that this behavior is consider unconstitutional for apparently any law enforcement agent BUT border patrol, expecially when it's a US citizen with extensive background checks with go wrong issued device--sensitive material or not?
The "fake news" part about this is that we're focusing on the border agents instead of the guy who actually did something wrong here.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 8:51 am to DeafJam73
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Stupid analogy. The man had, without a doubt, sensitive information on a company owned device that he keeps on his person when he travels. The company has the right to search the device anytime they want. If he didn't want them to see anything private, don't use a work device for that.
So any agency of the federal government should be able to inspect the electronic information of another agency at any time without providing any indication of cause?
That's the argument?
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