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re: NAFTA Update: Likely ‘Loggerheads’ to be Announced At 3:00pm
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:21 am to MorningWood
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:21 am to MorningWood
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Blow the shite up and see where Canada and Mexico are after you cut them off the American Tit.
AMEN Don't negotiate shite with these people. END NAFTA, wait a few months/years and let them come back to the table begging. Canada and MExico have no bargaining chip, to act like they do is stupid.
Oh and frick the Chamber of Commerce
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:22 am to GumboPot
didn't the original deal take like 5 years to put together?
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:25 am to bobby_3_sticks
I know it is far more complicated than this, but who has more to lose if NAFTA goes away? The U.S. loses VERY little if this agreement ceases to exist...
Some of the things Canada does, especially in its agricultural protectionism is downright criminal...
Some of the things Canada does, especially in its agricultural protectionism is downright criminal...
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:27 am to GumboPot
Libtards being told that they now must support the U.S. Chamber of Commerce GOPe bastion:
Posted on 10/17/17 at 11:34 am to GumboPot
Canada and Mexico after the jobs flow back to America after NAFTA's demise:
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:30 pm to The Maj
quote:
I know it is far more complicated than this, but who has more to lose if NAFTA goes away? The U.S. loses VERY little if this agreement ceases to exist...
Some of the things Canada does, especially in its agricultural protectionism is downright criminal...
The US consumer would lose if Nafta went away. CHeap produce (i.e. red peppers in December for $.50) for one.
Canada and Mexico are our two largest trading partners, so killing NAFTA would definitely impact that. We do have a trading deficit with both though.
I would think that mexico has the most to lose if nafta was killed.
Also, we need to think about the immigration effects of killing NAFTA. Trade to the US is a huge part of mexico's economy.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:31 pm to bobby_3_sticks
How does their trade with the US compare with remittances from Mexican nationals in the US? Because they could lose one or both of those if they keep fricking around.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:37 pm to bobby_3_sticks
quote:
so killing NAFTA
Uh, we traded with Mexico and Canada before NAFTA. You think we would stop trading now with them if NAFTA is annulled?
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:44 pm to teke184
I think remittances are like $50B a year.
So nothing compared to the trade, and reality is that there is no way to stop remittances.
So nothing compared to the trade, and reality is that there is no way to stop remittances.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:45 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Uh, we traded with Mexico and Canada before NAFTA. You think we would stop trading now with them if NAFTA is annulled?
No, but it would definitely reduce trade to both countries.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:48 pm to bobby_3_sticks
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So nothing compared to the trade, and reality is that there is no way to stop remittances.
Really?
Well how about a tax of say.... 25% on money transfer transactions on U.S. companies from non legals?
That would leave a mark!
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:49 pm to bobby_3_sticks
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but it would definitely reduce trade to both countries.
I'm pretty sure the US will let both countries buy as much as they want from us. We just won't be blackmailed now into buying X amount of stuff from them.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:53 pm to teke184
quote:
How does their trade with the US compare with remittances from Mexican nationals in the US? Because they could lose one or both of those if they keep fricking around.
IIRC, our trade deficit with Mexico is $59 billion/year. We send approximately $25 billion/year back to Mexico in the form of remittances and we give the Mexican government ~$250 million in foreign aid.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 1:02 pm to bobby_3_sticks
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The US consumer would lose if Nafta went away. CHeap produce (i.e. red peppers in December for $.50) for one.
How soon could the rest of South and Central America plant peppers? How about Africa, Southern Asia, and the Pacific?
Or for real shites and grins, how many plastic sheeting green houses could be built in America to supply $.60 red peppers? American jobs, American taxes, American resourcefulness. And how soon could the Mexican red pepper suppliers find a replacement market for their peppers.
NAFTA = American trade deficits.
Trump = "fair trade" agreements or walk away!
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 10/17/17 at 4:04 pm to GumboPot
Bump.
Did it happen?
Or are they still negotiating?
Did it happen?
Or are they still negotiating?
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