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My experience: A conservative with a week in the Bay Area.

Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:13 am
Posted by Deuces
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:13 am
I went to the Bay Area for a week to spend some time with some friends of mine from high school. They moved there to work in the tech industry. I was fully prepared to enter the belly of the beast, the place I was always warned about for being the ground zero of progressive fascism.

Granted, most of my time was spent an hour outside of San Francisco. I really only spent a day there and a day in Oakland. Here’s a couple of tidbits from my time:

1. The people who drive there do not give a frick. Seriously. If you drive the speed limit, be prepared to get honks and stares. I’m pretty sure there’s no such thing as a speeding ticket. Traffic is pretty comparable to Dallas, minus the no speeding tickets.

2. The majority of people you will encounter will be Latino origin. You can speak no English and live there 100% comfortably. Spanish is everywhere. This is more so than East Texas.

3. The weather is 45-65 degrees in May (this is irrelevant to politics, but it was a noted contrast to my Louisiana life).

4. The homeless population I witnessed wasn’t much different from New Orleans (granted, I didn’t spend too much time in the city, so I’m sure I missed a ton. This is only what I saw).

5. Gas is $5.85-6.30 a gallon. Groceries are pretty comparable to Louisiana. An 1,800 square foot house built in the 1940’s in a solid neighborhood will cost you $1.5-2 million.

6. From where I was, I saw no political activism. I only saw one book store with a sale outside. There, I witnessed two anti-Trump books for sale.

7. There isn’t many overweight/obese people. At all. (Being from Louisiana, this is fairly uncommon).

8. Most of the people were very friendly. I didn’t have anyone act rudely towards me or ask me about anything political when they figured out I was from the south. Everyone was extremely nice and they will greet you back when you say “good morning, or hello”.

9. Most people, outside of the city, at least, are normal working-class citizens just trying to make a living to provide for their families. Ones I spoke with did say it was very hard in a place that costs so much to live. Overall, I had a great time and saw some great scenery. I would go back.


The moral of my story is, don’t get so lost in what the news says. My family tried like hell to tell me not go because they basically thought there’s a damn civil war going on in California because of the progressives who live there. That’s what too much Facebook and Fox News can do for you.

All news stations and media outlets report the extremes and create inflammatory stories for one thing. PROFIT. It’s in their financial best interest to divide us and keep us divided. They are for-profit companies owned by rich business men.

Most people in this country are JUST LIKE US. They’re trying to mind the law and raise their families. I’m a Trump supporting conservative, but I was able to go over there and have a great time while bonding with some great locals I met.

Unplug from the news a little bit if you feel overwhelmed by what’s going on. It’s their job to make you feel that way.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 8:17 am
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5736 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:17 am to
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Most people, outside of the city, at least, are normal working-class citizens just trying to make a living to provide for their families. Ones I spoke with did say it was very hard in a place that costs so much to live.


This is truly the case for 98% of the U.S.. But the other 2% of society controls the public narrative. It's a shame how much we kowtow to the lowest common denominator in all facets of life.
Posted by LSUBogeyMan
Member since Oct 2021
1181 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:17 am to
Wear a Maga hat in Target in Baton Rouge and do the same there and report back.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:17 am to
Should have walked around with a MAGA hat and seen how fast they become unfriendly to you
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4429 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:18 am to
They obviously brainwashed you in the short time you were there.

JK…I spent a lot of time over there also and found most folks to be decent. The inner-cities suck. You’re fortunate to have missed that.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:18 am to
Well, that settles it. I'm moving to San Francisco, land of the free.
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
11935 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:18 am to
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Most people in this country are JUST LIKE US


I get what you are saying, and generally agree. But, a majority of those nice people you met vote for the craziest politicians who support the craziest policies imaginable. So, there are differences.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:19 am to
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most of my time was spent an hour outside of San Francisco. I really only spent a day there and a day in Oakland.


an hour can make a huge difference in the type of people you encounter.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:19 am to
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The moral of my story is, don’t get so lost in what the news says. My family tried like hell to tell me not go because they basically thought there’s a damn civil war going on in California because of the progressives who live there. That’s what too much Facebook and Fox News can do for you.


I was out near San Diego a few years ago for work. My first time there. On our way to a charity home build, we were accosted by a homeless chick trying to steal shite out of our van. As we were leaving the breakfast joint, i witnessed 2 bums fighting on the corner.

Your mileage may vary.

Posted by Hmanhunt
Member since Sep 2015
641 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:20 am to
I was in Portland a month ago and it was exactly what I thought it was. Beautiful place ruined by the clown posse.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39287 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:20 am to
I spend a lot more time in West Coast progressive cities than you have, including San Francisco. Your post is mostly right, except the homelessness is far worse than you saw. Also, the in-your-face progressivism is worse. No one is going to accost you, or anything, but in the neighborhoods the signage is everywhere. About every tenth house has either a BLM sign, a rainbow flag, or a “in this house we believe…” sign.

I have to add that in a VERY progressive West Seattle neighborhood I came across one house that flew three flags. One was a F#ck Trudeau, one was a FJB - Let’s go Brandon, and the middle one was a skull and crossbones.
Incidentally, on a previous visit to that neighborhood, my wife and I were walking our grandson, and the guy who lives there was sitting on his front lawn drinking a beer. He was the only guy we encountered who was overtly friendly. There were plenty of proggies who were friendly if we talked to them, but he actually greeted us.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 8:26 am
Posted by Deuces
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:20 am to
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I get what you are saying, and generally agree. But, a majority of those nice people you met vote for the craziest politicians who support the craziest policies imaginable. So, there are differences.


I understand this, but that’s if you look at everything through a political lens first and foremost. Most people do not.

Most people who vote are extremely ill informed and not nearly as political as the people on this board.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 8:21 am
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3090 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:21 am to
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They obviously brainwashed you in the short time you were there.

JK…I spent a lot of time over there also and found most folks to be decent. The inner-cities suck. You’re fortunate to have missed that.


California is great if you take politics out of it. I have lived here a long time. But there is a massive homeless crisis, taxes are insane, and our government here are nuts. But usually the people, as long as politics are not mentioned are alright.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20382 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:22 am to
You didn't run into my cousin then. He lives in the heart of San Francisco and believes the city is the Paris of the west or some shite. He likes to sniff Pelosi's farts and shits on all of his family back here in Louisiana. If you met him in the street, introduced yourself and said you were from Louisiana, he would walk past you.

The prick even didn't come back for his mother's funeral because he was scared of COVID.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 8:25 am
Posted by Deuces
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Member since Nov 2011
12375 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:22 am to
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About every tenth house has either a BLM sign, a rainbow flag, or a “in this house we believe…” sign.


I did see many rainbow flags and we drove down Castro street.

I didn’t spend enough time in the city, to be honest. Mostly outside in Antioch, Concord, Pittsburgh, etc. Most of my post is talking about the suburbs, I guess.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:23 am to
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I understand this, but that’s if you look at everything through a political lens first and foremost. Most people do not.

Most people in San Francisco do. It didn't get to be one of the most wildly leftist cities in the most wildly leftist state by accident.

"You conservatives need to throw down your arms and come out" isn't going to work anymore. You first.
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
1667 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:29 am to
Sounds like it should be a Red state.
Posted by BamaAggiemom
Member since Aug 2019
386 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:29 am to
Wish I knew where you were.

The Bay Area is big and diverse in people and climate.

I'm guessing you were in the north Bay by the bay.

South Bay around San Jose is hot in the day, but will generally cool off at night. In the summer, it's typically high 80s/low 90s. However, there are days when it gets over a 100, especially around the end of September.

Around Cupertino, Santa Clara it is mostly Asian. Los Gatos/Saratoga is still primarily white.

San Francisco is crazy. Lots of drugged up homeless sleeping in tents near Market Street where the theaters are.

I have lots of good friends there, and I miss them. If you avoid certain areas, it's a lot of fun. It's just hard to live there.

Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61244 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:30 am to
Yes and it would all seem normal until someone figures out you're conservative. I'm sure the Jews walking through Nazi Germany felt just fine until people found out they were Jews.
Posted by Deuces
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Member since Nov 2011
12375 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 8:31 am to
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I have lots of good friends there, and I miss them. If you avoid certain areas, it's a lot of fun. It's just hard to live there.


I was mostly east. In Antioch and Concord. It costs way too much to live there. Most people I talked to will move to the south for retirement.

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