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MSNBC just said Obama is expected to do more pardons
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:52 am
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:52 am
Was forced to watch MSNBC where I was at. I just got home. Anybody else hear this?
Who ya got on who else he will commute or pardon?
Who ya got on who else he will commute or pardon?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:53 am to cajunangelle
This ho bag at the 11th hour.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:53 am to joshnorris14
He already said no to Snowden & you know how Obama never goes back on his word.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:54 am to cajunangelle
He should have pardoned Irwin Schiff instead of letting him die in prison.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:54 am to cajunangelle
Charles Manson I'm sure is on his list, as well as Bernie Madoff and Sirhan Sirhan.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:55 am to joshnorris14
Obama put out that Snowden or HRC didn't -formally in writing- ask for pardons. I am wondering if they faxed it in?
If Obama doesn't, Trump will pardon Snowden.
Do you think Crooked will be pardoned?
If Obama doesn't, Trump will pardon Snowden.
Do you think Crooked will be pardoned?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:56 am to cajunangelle
I don't care, but would like to see him pardon more people doing time for nonviolent drug offenses.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:58 am to BamaCoaster
He's done enough. And these NonViolent Drug Offenders were major drug trafficers involved in violent crimes but not convicted of them.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:59 am to cajunangelle
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Was forced to watch MSNBC where I was at.
Was it a bar or restaurant?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:59 am to BamaCoaster
Do you consider selling crack cocaine as being non violent? Not in a one on one situation but in dealer quantities?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:00 pm to cajunangelle
As long as you say your prison sentence has been hard and you pinky promise not to commit more crimes you are eligible with Obama. If you say you will cut off your dick then you are a lock.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:00 pm to MrLarson
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Normally, one would expect outgoing presidents to make the most controversial pardons at the last minute. Other clemency actions of less controversy would already have taken place sometime over the last eight years, and certainly since the 2014 midterm elections, the last time Obama’s pardons and commutations could have had a direct electoral impact. Bill Clinton held off on the notorious pardon for fugitive and major Democratic donor Marc Rich until the morning of George W. Bush’s inauguration, for instance, perhaps hoping the news would get buried in the inaugural coverage.
With that in mind, it seems at least somewhat likely that we’ll see clemency actions that will generate even more controversy than in this round. So who else might benefit from Obama’s sense of mercy (or politics) that would be more controversial than Chelsea Manning and Oscar Lopez? These names come to mind:
David Petraeus – This one would make sense in light of the pardon for James Cartwright. Petraeus also served Obama well, and has much more to contribute to national security after learning a lesson (we hope) from his indiscreet affair. This would be relatively uncontroversial, so much so that one might wonder why Obama hasn’t already pardoned Petraeus. The answer: He never asked for a pardon.
Edward Snowden – After all of the screeching over the DNC hack, it would seem almost impossible for Obama to forgive the man who stole highly classified NSA information and handed it off to Wikileaks while absconding to Russia, but … that’s what we said about Manning, too. Obama and the White House tried to emphasize that Manning served over six years in prison and admitted guilt to rationalize his release, but that’s not the case with Snowden. If Obama pardons Snowden, Democrats will need to shut up about Russia.
Julian Assange – Assange has problems with the US and Sweden, so an Obama pardon will only solve some of his problems, and may not even get him out of the Ecuadorian embassy. Supposedly he will surrender to the US after the Manning commutation, but, er … don’t hold your breath on that one. Assange gets the same support on the Left as Snowden — or at least he did until the DNC hack — and now some on the Right are just as inexplicably enamored of Assange. A pardon will also kill the Democrats’ Russia narrative, but commuting Manning’s sentence mortally wounded it already.
Bowe Bergdahl – Obama’s already made light of espionage with Manning’s commutation, and terrorism with Lopez’. Why not make light of desertion with a Bergdahl pardon?
Leonard Peltier – A cause celebre on the Left for decades, the biggest surprise is that it’s taken this long for his name to emerge on a lest of potential clemency actions. Hollywood is very big on Peltier, but the FBI is adamantly opposed to releasing someone who murdered two of its agents and is serving two consecutive life sentences for those crimes. When it looked like Bill Clinton was about to commute Peltier’s sentence, the FBI marched to the White House in protest.
Ethel Rosenberg – Her children want a presidential pardon and exoneration from her conviction of espionage. It’s a little late for Ethel, of course, but this is another Hollywood cause, and even though more evidence has emerged of her involvement, it’s not clear that Ethel was in as deep as her husband Julius.
Hillary Clinton – Last and least deserving of a pardon, in large part because she keeps insisting that she’s as pure as the driven snow, which she wipes with a cloth. Hillary hasn’t asked for a pardon and Donald Trump sounds much more diffident about pursuing a prosecution, but Hillary’s scandal was also Obama’s. He may not want any more probing into his own administration. The bonus on this will be that it kills the Clintons’ political power once and for all.
If I was a betting man, I’d guess that we’ll see at least three of these names on the clemency list on Thursday. And if I was to bet further, I’d guess that those names will be Clinton, Peltier, and Snowden.
Update: Matt Stock on Twitter offers up another potential beneficiary of Obama’s clemency — Mumia Abu-Jamal. Some on the Left claim he’s a political prisoner, but he’s a cop killer who managed to work his way off of death row. Obama adviser Van Jones is a Mumia supporter, and it wasn’t all that long ago that Obama tried to appoint Debo Adegbile to the DoJ until Senate Democrats balked at his free-Mumia activism. This one looks like a real possibility — and one that would have definitely been held off until the final few hours. However, Mumia was convicted at the state level, not federal, as other Twitter followers have pointed out, so … he’s off the list, unless Obama wants a fight over jurisdiction on his way out the door.
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:01 pm to cajunangelle
I hear he's gonna pardon Jared from subway
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:02 pm to aggressor
remember when Obama first started releasing terrorists @ GTMO? He made them sign papers they would return to farming and playing cards with their families and love with their baws.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:07 pm to Keltic Tiger
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Do you consider selling crack cocaine as being non violent?
Yes, if there was no violence associated with the deal.
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Not in a one on one situation but in dealer quantities?
Yes.
Fun fact: The amount of weight in a candy bar (right around 60 grams) was enough to put someone away for life until Bush rescended the practice 6 years into his presidency. That same amount, in cocaine, would mandate a 5 year sentence. Why the disparity?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:28 pm to BamaCoaster
Why is the MSM silent about Obama pardoning a former community organizer terrorist?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:30 pm to cajunangelle
He's def going to pardon Mumia as one last "frick you" to the police. Bank on it.
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