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re: More proof that global warming is bullshite, Penguins are dying due to excessive ice

Posted on 10/15/17 at 4:24 am to
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 4:24 am to
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I know it was a bit cold to lead you here, but the self-healing premise is your implication. That's the point. The fact you don't seem to realize it is actually comical. Terrestrial "self-healing" is requisite to warmists' understanding and explanation of ice age temp cycles.



Oh it is my implication now is it? All along I was the one pushing GAIA theories, not the two people that explicitly tried to suggest and defend them. I guess after a few poor attempts at trying to prop up that guy's argument you are just gonna try and pretend you were doing some M Night Shymalan bullshite. lol. But please, explain to me how it is a "requisite to warmists' understanding and explanation of ice age temp cycles."

This just gets more and more entertaining.

And warmists huh? Is this your new derogatory term for people who understand the relationship between temperatures and GHG's, orbital shifts, and remember how photosynthesis works?





This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 4:26 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123855 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 5:02 am to
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Oh it is my implication now is it?
Of course it is.
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But please, explain to me how it is a "requisite to warmists' understanding and explanation of ice age temp cycles."
You are kidding? Atmospheric CO2 rises and falls. You believe that is the force driving terrestrial temp variation. Holding origins of all such variance as geoisolated, you have no explanation other than "self-healing".
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This just gets more and more entertaining.
Indeed.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 5:57 am to
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Atmospheric CO2 rises and falls. You believe that is the force driving terrestrial temp variation. Holding origins of all such variance as geoisolated, you have no explanation other than "self-healing


In this particular period, yes, CO2 and other GHG’s are the primary drivers of the increased aggregate temperatures and numerous other changes happening in the planet’s biosphere. The science on this is clear. In past periods of Earth’s history, sometimes other causations or relationships cause temperatures to rise or fall, such as orbital shifts, solar shifts, or changes in photosynthesis levels, but the basic relationship of how GHG’s trap heat is not in dispute.


There continues to only be one person here who has ever suggested the poster’s GAIA theory has merit, and that was you when you made an appeal to the posters point by suggesting a better understanding of a phantom ice age and Henry’s law as the reason I would somehow buy into that assertion. Which you still refuse to clarify.

This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 6:14 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123855 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:27 am to
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In this particular period, yes, CO2 and other GHG’s are the primary drivers of the increased aggregate temperatures and numerous other changes happening in the planet’s biosphere. The science on this is clear.
Is it? Really?
So given such "clear science" and your comical aversion to its requisite self-healing premise, how then do you explain cyclical ice age CO2 variances?
I've asked several times. If you don't know, then simply say so.
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a phantom ice age
What "phantom" ice age are you referring to?
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Which you still refuse to clarify.
Actually I did clarify.
But let's try again.

You'll note I posted an ice core record earlier.
Perhaps you notice accordingly that as atmospheric CO2 falls to ~185ppm it tends to reverse trend, and rise to ~285ppm at which time it falls rather precipitously back to the 185 level. If the cause is terrestrial, it is self-healing. Pretty simple really.

FTR, I DGAS about Gaian theory, nor about "self-healing". You must. "Self-healing," I suppose, could involve nonbiologic triggers -- some sort of mystical climate induced volcanic activity, perhaps.

But as a warmist, you'll find yourself supporting a self-healing hypothesis in some form. You have to. Further, unless you propose a completely nonbiological mechanism for atmospheric CO2 undulation, you likewise must believe Gaia in some form. Again, it is requisite in any Earth isolated climate premise.

Sorry, but that should be fairly clear.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260213 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:35 am to
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More proof that global warming is bullshite,


What?

Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10530 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:35 am to
Poli Board logic:

-carbon emissions contributing to climate change? So dumb

-the immaculate conception? Sounds legit
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11584 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 8:22 am to
Worldwide flood with no evidence? Sold!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123855 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 8:42 am to
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Worldwide flood
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no evidence?
Indeed.







Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11584 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 9:41 am to
Pics of canyons. Wow!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123855 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 9:59 am to
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Pics of canyons. Wow!
Hint: If you post something dumb, don't double down.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 10:06 am to
To bad they are a word apart. It would have been nice if the unfortunate penguins could have at least provided a free lunch for the poor downtrodden polar bears!

That's what happens when you leave Mommy Nature in charge!
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11584 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:01 pm to
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Hint: If you post something dumb, don't double down.


I'm fully aware of the sedimentary layers of the earths crust. Now please link something besides a picture of the Grand Canyon that shows evidence of the global flood that happened 6000 years ago and killed every living creature on the planet sans the ones on the Ark, which was built by 1 guy with Stone Age era tools. Crazy how it took 1000 people with modern construction knowledge to build the one in Kentucky. You know, the one filled with dinosaurs?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105403 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:32 pm to
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Just sayin


It only says men don't want to come out and talk about Obama just yet.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123855 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:46 pm to
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I'm fully aware of the sedimentary layers of the earths crust.
Apparently though, you aren't fully aware of the reason those sedimentary layers are visible
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besides a picture of the Grand Canyon
Along with the Dakota Badlands FYI.

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Tall as a five-story building, this wall of volcanic basalt in Drumheller Channels took shape 10 million years ago as lava cooled, shrank, and cracked vertically. Massive floods later ripped away sections, creating this pillared landmark.

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Floodwaters scoured this chaotic labyrinth of channels into the bedrock of Babcock Bench, perched 600 feet above the Columbia River.

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“During the ice-age floods, this entire scene was submerged beneath hundreds of feet of water,” says geologist Bruce Bjornstad. The Palouse River, shown here, "was hijacked and forced to follow a new route to the Snake River.”

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Plummeting nearly 200 feet, Palouse Falls is a trickle compared to the megafloods that carved this canyon and shaped the surrounding landscape of eastern Washington State.

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The basalt and granite boulders now littering the Ephrata Fan were carried there by torrents of water that gushed out of a canyon called the Grand Coulee. The largest piece of rock is more than 25 feet tall.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35998 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:16 pm to
I'm accusing Obama of raping me!!!

He did that to me and millions of others when he passed Obamacare which forced me out my plan and doubled my insurance payments.

Change your graphics.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11584 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:18 pm to
You aren't proving evidence of the Great Deluge. Large scale regional flooding, but no mass extinction event. Certainly not in the past 10000 years. Evidence man. Provide it.
This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:35 pm to
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Evidence man. Provide it.


Can you provide any evidence that man caused CO2 is driving the climate?

Environmentalism is one of the weirdest religion to come along since Scientology. CO2 is the invisible flying spaghetti monster that, if we don't genuflect to, will cause an apocalypse.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11584 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:38 pm to
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Can you provide any evidence that man caused CO2 is driving the climate?


Nope, and never I could or defended the statement.

I believe in cyclical, global climate change. You're ignorant if you don't.
This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Nope, and never I could or defended the statement.

Do you believe that human generated CO2 is a danger, or a problem facing the future of mankind?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23684 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:48 pm to
NEWSFLASH: Republicans don’t need no science or quantitative data. Random anonymous guys on the internet are the only people who know the truth. Just ask them. That’s what they will say.
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