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BBONDS25
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They were all harmed by indoctrination


Someone was advocating gun control?


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germandawg
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BTW - how could presenting multiple viewpoints to students be considered to be in opposition to free thought?



So you would be in favor of presenting two different views of, oh I don't know, Algebra and Grammar??? One view could be that both are important and the other could be that one one uses either one after they graduate. Multiple viewpoints is not evidence of the promotion of free thought......


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So you would be in favor of presenting two different views of, oh I don't know, Algebra and Grammar???
Not to you gd. I'd stick to very simple concepts.


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Antonio Moss
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The 1st Amendment didn't apply to state and local governments



You seriously didn't know that? Jefferson would be appalled by our civic education in the country.

Yep. The 1st (and many other amendments) were not incorporated to the states until the Gitlow decision in 1925

Edit: the Civic education comment wasn't meant to insult you. Our Civics curriculum in this country is an absolute joke in that it pushes nonsense and skips fundamental government truths. Jefferson believed that Civics and understanding the philosophy behind our government was the primary concern of public education. He would be upset to our current state of affairs.
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Archie Bengal Bunker
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how could presenting multiple viewpoints to students be considered to be in opposition to free thought?


When it is not multiple viewpoints. If they would have shown a story about Jesus, then Muhammad, and then Buddha, that might be thought provoking.


BBONDS25
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your lack of understanding is astounding. I don't even know where to start....free thought shouldn't be one of your concerns...its too big a topic for the simple minded.


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Gitlow decision in 1925.
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You seriously didn't know that? Jefferson would be appalled by our civic education in the country.
Probably.

Then again, the 10th Amendment existed before 1925, didn't it?


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Then again, the 10th Amendment existed before 1925, didn't it?


Yes, but I'm not sure why that's relevant.


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but I'm not sure why that's relevant.
Obviously.


Antonio Moss
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Obviously


Why would it? Just curious.


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germandawg
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your lack of understanding is astounding. I don't even know where to start....free thought shouldn't be one of your concerns...its too big a topic for the simple minded.


Obviously...and your post is a perfect example of a blind pig finding an acorn...free thought is to big a concept for believers to undertake....


RCDfan1950
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There is a difference between science and religion. One is supposed to be taught in public schools; there other isn't


FLAWED PREMISE as it relates to the issue.

Both Religion and Science are employed to qualify/quantify the PERCEIVED UNIVERSE. The Perceived Universe...is. Whatever it is.

Reglion's First Principle is that the Perceived Universe is "Spirit". I.e., an abstract Entity/Power. Intellect is an abstract 'entity'. Knowledge is an abstract Power. Tell me that Knowledge is NOT Power, or that the Intellect that that is able to employ Knowledge as Power - by DEGREE - would not become SCIENTIFICALLY quantifiable. And to the degree that Infinite Intellect was able to absorb (understand) and employ Infinite Knowledge....what would such an *Entity* be? Guess Who/What? The Big Guy!

Science and Religion are joined at the hip. At a particular point - as Stephen Hawking percieved and validated..."Reality is subjective". So, at that point...personal choice kicks in...and the individual perceiver...choose his reality. "Parallel Universes"...."many Mansion".

Show me a culture that progresses with the Religious/Spiritual/'God' paradigm...and I'll show you a progression toward Unity and Love. Unity being Love.

Show me a culture that worships Science alone, and I'll show you one that progresses straight toward the Black Hole of the Singularity.

Enjoy the ride to whichever you nature bids that you choose.



sorry for the edit...I throw this stuff up on the wall too fast.
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NC_Tigah
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...free thought is to big a concept for believers to undertake....
It's "too" . . . . you free thinker, you.

One of the "two different views of Grammar" you referenced earlier?


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Well, it's looking like I was right and you were wrong... which is not surprising given the usual truthbending by Christian school administrators in these sorts of issues. Here's a lesson for you: when it's the word of the atheist/humanist versus the Christian principal in these controversies your default should be to believe the atheist.

The suit alleges that Principal Frazier sent an email to all faculty members instructing them to send students to a mandatory assembly in the Performing Arts Building without mentioning the purpose of the assembly. If it's mentioned in the suit as evidence of the case you can bet it will be easy enough to present.

Also, before filing the suit, the AHA on behalf of the offended student sent a letter LINK advising Principal Frazier that he was violating her constitutional rights and demanding that they not carry on with further such assemblies. The AHA received no reply from the school, which proceeded to conduct further such assemblies. So your contention that the school was somehow flummoxed or sniped or backstabbed with some dishonest surprise legal maneuver is poppycock.

eta: Here's the actual wording from Principal Frazier's email: “Sorry for the late notice. All seniors will need to report to the [Performing Arts Building] during Cougar Connection. They should report directly from the 5th block. Thanks.”

Does "all students will need to report" sound VOLUNTARY to you?







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Does "all students will need to report" sound VOLUNTARY to you?
Depends entirely on context and intent.

Time will tell.


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It's "too" . . . . you free thinker, you.

One of the "two different views of Grammar" you referenced earlier?


You know you got 'em on the rope when they start playing the role of a school marm' LOL!!!


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RCDfan1950
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re: Mississippi public school forces students to listen to Jesus lecture
Bottom line. 'You can tell a tree by the fruit that it bears'. Just compare graduating students of schools that teach religion (Spiritual First Principle) as oppossed to them that don't. Employ Science...to qualify Religion. Instead of running around the issue room and banging into the walls.

The Progs won't. Because their designs aren't employed toward educated students. More like indoctrinated...toward...no God. "the blind leading the blind...into the ditch".

Tragic but true. All prophesied. He we go to paradise!


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Just compare graduating students of schools that teach religion (Spiritual First Principle) as oppossed to them that don't. Employ Science...to qualify Religion. Instead of running around the issue room and banging into the walls.

That's fine, RCD. If you feel that students are better served with that sort of training there's a place they can get it: private schools. If you instead send your children to public schools you should at least honor their constitutional right to a separation of church and state.



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