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MI Court of appeals: Stein is not an aggrieved candidate, recount must stop
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:36 pm
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Jonathan Oosting ?@jonathanoosting 3m3 minutes ago
DRAMA: Michigan Court of Appeals has ordered Board of Canvassers to reconsider, reject Jill Stein's request for presidential vote recount
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Boom
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Bye Felicia
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
She's going to appeal the appeal!!!!
Miserable count!!!!
Miserable count!!!!
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Not one of Obama's judges?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
quote:
Jonathan Oosting ?@jonathanoosting 3m3 minutes ago
DRAMA: Michigan Court of Appeals has ordered Board of Canvassers to reconsider, reject Jill Stein's request for presidential vote recount
And a big
GFY to jill stein!! Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I've heard her talk. She's "aggrieved about everything.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:50 pm to Gaspergou202
I'm confused on how this is working. I thought it was a federal judge who ordered the recount to start. The MI COA wouldn't have the authority to over rule a federal court's order. Could someone explain? I haven't been following these recounts closely because in the end they will amount to nothing.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Stein is not an aggrieved candidate, recount must stop
No shite.
We need laws to make it illegal for fringe candidates like her who got less than 10% of the vote to request a recount.
She does not have standing to make such a request. That privilege belongs to Hillary Clinton and her only, not 1% Jill Stein.
Stein absolutely disrupted what was supposed to be an orderly and timely process for the electoral college, attacked Trump's legitimacy as President-Elect and riled up the conspiracy cooks without just cause.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:52 pm to Sentrius
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No shite.
We need laws to make it illegal for fringe candidates like her who got less than 10% of the vote to request a recount.
She does not have standing to make such a request. That privilege belongs to Hillary Clinton and her only, not 1% Jill Stein.
Stein absolutely disrupted what was supposed to be an orderly and timely process for the electoral college, attacked Trump's legitimacy as President-Elect and riled up the conspiracy cooks without just cause.
Agree with all of this. I'd still like if someone could answer my previous question.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:53 pm to TigernMS12
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Agree with all of this. I'd still like if someone could answer my previous question.
I agree. So is it sopped or not?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:54 pm to TigernMS12
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I'm confused on how this is working. I thought it was a federal judge who ordered the recount to start. The MI COA wouldn't have the authority to over rule a federal court's order. Could someone explain? I haven't been following these recounts closely because in the end they will amount to nothing.
I don't know if they are actually going to stop it or not, but the thinking is that the federal government can't actually tell Michigan how to run a state election. Who knows how it ends up, but how it theoretically should be, they have no say over how a state elected someone.
Edit: That is, it's an election for a federal office, but each state is tasked with how they run the election.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:56 pm to TigernMS12
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I'm confused on how this is working. I thought it was a federal judge who ordered the recount to start. The MI COA wouldn't have the authority to over rule a federal court's order. Could someone explain? I haven't been following these recounts closely because in the end they will amount to nothing.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:56 pm to Fububutsy
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I don't know if they are actually going to stop it or not, but the thinking is that the federal government can't actually tell Michigan how to run a state election. Who knows how it ends up, but how it theoretically should be, they have no say over how a state elected someone.
But it's a federal election, not a state one. Bush v. Gore clearly stands for the proposition that federal courts can intervene in matters pertaining to a federal election (albeit they must apply state law). The fed courts supersede state courts as a general statement. It may be different in this case though. I don't know which is why I asked if someone else did.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:56 pm to Fububutsy
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but the thinking is that the federal government can't actually tell Michigan how to run a state election.
Thats sort of what I was thinking. A fed judge can rule that the recount should be allowed, but after that the state has the obligation to conduct that recount under state rules?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I hope it doesn't stop. There are still many millions of liberal dollars to waste.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Wow, some common sense for a change. Made this very point on here yesterday.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Stein is nothing more than a Hillary toadie at this point
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:59 pm to Gaspergou202
But the state of Michigan is the one that is actually going to have to pay for it. The state is going to try to enact a law retroactively that makes the person requesting a recount pay the whole thing, but I don't believe that will actually hold up to appeal if they do pass it.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 7:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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HailHailtoMichigan!
Thanks, that pretty much answered my question. Bush v. Gore is such a strange case to me because I, like most on here, was under the belief that election laws are left to the states, including recounts. I guess that case was federalized because of the equal protection argument made by Bush's team and they invalidated the operation of some FL election laws.
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