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re: Melting arctic means opportunity... and possible conflict

Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 3:58 pm to
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I think simple math fails on such a large scale of the earth.


I don't disagree. However a simple assertion was made so I addressed it.



Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:03 pm to
sorry for the thread hijack btw
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 4:28 pm to
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The volume of water in the oceans is 1.37 billion kilometers cubed. That's 1.37 billion billion meters cubed.

So if the ocean temperature increases by 1 degree celsius the volume expansion of water is 287.7 kilometers cubed. Sounds like a lot, but...

off by 1000:


1371 10^6 * .00021 = 287700 not 287.7

I get 38 inches using .00015 for 1 degree.

That said, shame on the IPCC for not describing what their charts mean & how they are derived.

Thermal expansion is considered the major player.


Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
4651 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 5:05 pm to
Good. We owe Denmark an arse whooping for what they did to my ancestors.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:18 am to
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... you can test that at home with a glass of iced water before and after the ice has melted, just mark the glass while the ice hasn't melted then afterwards.




You've never actually done this, have you?
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 12:28 am
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:24 am to
quote:

I think simple math fails on such a large scale of the earth.
Then astronomy is fricking doomed, isn't it?
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What happens to the earth underneath as the ice melts? does it rise forcing the water higher? Does the earth under the ocean sink just a bit in reaction to the additional water depth? And what about everything else???? Does it force earthquakes and volcanoes to explode? How does it affect the earths rotation? Do days get longer as more mass is concentrated at the center axis?


fricking magnets, how do they work?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:26 am to
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quote:
I think simple math fails on such a large scale of the earth.



I don't disagree.


Dudes - MATH - does not "fail" at scales as large as the Earth!
It doesn't fail at any finite scale.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 12:27 am to
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That said, shame on the IPCC for not describing what their charts mean & how they are derived.


You want them to hold your hand?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98347 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 5:06 am to
I thought you guys said warming isn't happening?
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