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re: Maybe Scalise didn't actually speak to Euro-Conference
Posted on 12/31/14 at 6:55 pm to BuckyBadger
Posted on 12/31/14 at 6:55 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:
Nope. Nothing in there suggests racism. Nothing in there suggests militant or that he actively was militant. A bunch of students took over a lounge. That shite happens all the time. Doesn't mean militant. Only you could make a bunch of Columbia wimps into militants.
So not only are you ignorant, you are incapable of saying when you are wrong as well.
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 6:59 pm to Revelator
quote:Lying again.
So not only are you ignorant, you are incapable of saying when you are wrong as well.
Post something that shows the org was racist. Wanting a lounge named change hardly constitutes racism.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:05 pm to BuckyBadger
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Post something that shows the org was racist. Wanting a lounge named change hardly constitutes racism.
Wanting a lounge renamed after a racist like Malcom X is without question a racist act. And if the claims that they were armed are also true, it elevates the situation.
I imagine if President Bush in his younger years wanted a college lounge renamed after the grand dragon of the KKK that this too would not be racist?
Holder has also proved to be racist by his actions. The fact that you defend him speaks volumes about your nature.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:13 pm to Revelator
The act may be racist. That doesn't make the org racist.
You are struggling. You have really nothing. Hence the term armed. Which could mean anything.
A bunch of Columbia students took over a lounge. Nothing happened. And you are so desperate that you can't even admit how grasping you are.
And now you move to Holder. We are talking about the BSO. You have yet to post anything about them. You have one article it doesn't tell us anything about their goals. Membership. Officers. Nothing.
You are struggling. You have really nothing. Hence the term armed. Which could mean anything.
A bunch of Columbia students took over a lounge. Nothing happened. And you are so desperate that you can't even admit how grasping you are.
And now you move to Holder. We are talking about the BSO. You have yet to post anything about them. You have one article it doesn't tell us anything about their goals. Membership. Officers. Nothing.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:15 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:
Nothing in there suggests racism.
The Black Panthers are not racist?
quote:Armed protestors seizing the Dean's office and holding him hostage is not militant?
Nothing in there suggests militant
You seem to think you have some additional knowledge of the situation. Lay it out.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:19 pm to boosiebadazz
It would be better for the GOP if he were to step down from his leadership position, IMHO.
It was a professional mistake. I would hold him accountable for that mistake.
Let him serve as an example for neophyte politicians everywhere. Mistakes are not always forgiven.
It was a professional mistake. I would hold him accountable for that mistake.
Let him serve as an example for neophyte politicians everywhere. Mistakes are not always forgiven.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:20 pm to BuckyBadger
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The act may be racist. That doesn't make the org racist.
You are a disingenuous poster and I will spend zero time further addressing your foolishness in this thread.
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:23 pm to Revelator
quote:Translation: I can't counter this obviously true assertion and will cast aspersions and run away.
You are a disingenuous poster and I will spend zero time further addressing your foolishness in this thread.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:35 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:You've not addressed the link he posted. To the best of my knowledge Revelator did not pen the piece. He simply cited it.
Translation: I can't counter this obviously true assertion and will cast aspersions and run away.
Yet you're attacking him. As suggested earlier, if you have additional information, lay it out. We'd all like to see it.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:39 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:i did address the piece.
You've not addressed the link he posted. To the best of my knowledge Revelator did not pen the piece. He simply cited it.
Feel free to quote the part that makes the BSO racist.
I don't have to have anything. He made the assertion that it was a Racist Militant Org. It is his responsibility to back the claim up. I can't disprove a negative.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:47 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:I did
Feel free to quote the part that makes the BSO racist.
quote:
i did address the piece.
quote:Of course you do. You've self-attributed an "obviously true assertion".
I don't have to have anything.
quote:An "obviously true assertion" is a "negative"?
I can't disprove a negative.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:59 pm to redandright
That's so lame. You people are like cockroaches scurrying for cover when the lights are turned on. Own it, it's yours.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:13 pm to Layabout
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You people are like cockroaches scurrying for cover when the lights are turned on. Own it, it's yours.
So I know literally nothing about Scalise. However you seem to. According to you he's a blatant racist, and folks who voted him in are cockroaches. That about sum it up? So what is the basis of that opinion?
Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:18 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Sorry. Didn't see your previous post.
I did
Supporting the Panthers doesn't make the org racist. Does giving money to Sharpton make Walmart race baiters.
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quote: i did address the piece.
Again, I did. Or did my comments about the vaguely worded "armed" just appear out of the ether?
All you have is the pr of a deleted web page. Not any other source. That is simply laughable.
quote:lol
Of course you do. You've self-attributed an "obviously true assertion".
The fact that you are trying to base anything on a single article, that hasn't been fact checked, etc. is beyond ridiculous.
quote:
An "obviously true assertion" is a "negative"?
You mean like the obviously true assertion that conservatives are racists?
Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:53 pm to BuckyBadger
quote:Fair enough. Scalise did not even support EURO. He just spoke to them. In fact, it seems he may not have even done that.
Supporting the Panthers doesn't make the org racist. Does giving money to Sharpton make Walmart race baiters.
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Not any other source. That is simply laughable.
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Disabled During ’68 Columbia Melee, a Former Officer Feels Pain, Not Rage
By SUSAN DOMINUS
Published: April 25, 2008
On May 1, 1968, Frank Gucciardi, a 34-year-old plainclothes police officer, showed up for work and was told to change into uniform. The day before, 1,000 helmeted police officers had cleared students out of the Columbia campus buildings they had been occupying, but a new shift was still needed to keep order on the campus, which had been raging throughout the previous week.
As soon as he and nine other officers streamed through the Columbia gate — in their case, without nightsticks, at the command of their deputy officer — they saw “kids charging at us,” he recalls. “They had branches from trees, and they were hitting us with them.” From the windows, students were flinging down wastepaper baskets, globs of glue and, this being Columbia, books. A student knocked his hat off, and others tossed it around for a few moments before it landed near a campus building.
As Officer Gucciardi bent down to pick it up, a student — never identified — jumped from a second-story window and landed on his back. The student ran off; Mr. Gucciardi, who endured three grueling spinal operations over the next three years, never ran again.
This Sunday at noon, as part of a weekend commemoration of the historic events of that week 40 years ago, other former veterans of the Columbia protests will have the opportunity to take an open mike at the sundial, a campus meeting place, “to talk about their lives since then and lessons learned,” according to the schedule of events.
Already on a short fuse from the course of the Vietnam War and the draft, the students on campus were protesting, among other things, Columbia’s plans to build a gymnasium with a separate entrance for the community, which was mostly black.
LINK
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Mr. Coleman, then acting dean of Columbia College, the undergraduate part of the university, was barricaded in his office by members of the Students for a Democratic Society and the Student Afro-American Society during the school's famous upheavals in April 1968.
Newspapers quoted students, including demonstrators, saying how much they liked him.
"He's a very nice jock who's been a much better dean than anybody expected," a student who identified himself only as an S.D.S. member told The New York Times.
Four years later, Mr. Coleman again appeared in news reports when he was shot five times by a disgruntled student who was angry because the university had asked him to withdraw because of low grades.
LINK
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:34 am to NC_Tigah
Yea I really feel bad for the guy. He should've done a little more research into what he was being accused of rather than just jumping to damage control. Either way he shouldn't have been put in that position.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:16 am to Layabout
quote:
That's so lame. You people are like cockroaches scurrying for cover when the lights are turned on. Own it, it's yours.
As I said, it's what you want to believe.
Facts be damned.
Happy New Year, I wish you health and happiness.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:18 am to Tigerstudent08
quote:Well, GOP politicians with but a few exceptions are simply cowed by the press. Instead of aggressive counterattack and belittling of accusers, they come up with doltish halfwit's responses. Aside from Cruz, Paul, Christie, and a few others, they do it consistently.
Yea I really feel bad for the guy. He should've done a little more research into what he was being accused of rather than just jumping to damage control.
In this case, Scalise says he didn't know about the group, didn't know who he was speaking to. Fine. Then Scalise and Boehner both say he had a "lapse in judgement". Whoops!
They didn't say Scalise's team failed to vet. They didn't turn the question on the press by saying "Look, I honestly don't remember the details. But good God Almighty, have we come to the point where a man cannot give a mainstream speech to any group? Are we THAT far gone?" They did not inquire as to why this story arose suddenly some 12-15 yrs after the fact. They didn't expose liberal media hacks as the biased malignant asshats they are.
Instead Scalise and Boehner both said there was an error in judgement. Clearly if that is true, Scalise's statement that he did not know to whom he was speaking should be assumed to be a lie. After all, if he really didn't know who the group was, how could there be a lapse in judgement?
For the Press, that sort of apparent duplicity spells blood-in-the-water, as it should. A Boehner-Scalise response of coordinated incompetence turned what by all rights should be a nonstory, into evidence of KKK-GOP affiliation. It's just another example of breathtaking GOP stupidity.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:36 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Well, GOP politicians with but a few exceptions are simply cowed by the press. Instead of aggressive counterattack and belittling of accusers, they come up with doltish halfwit's responses
This has infuriated me for decades now. The media has obviously chosen sides in the political arena - I don't see how the GOP should treat them in any way other than as a political opponent.
I would like to see them challenge the media on their facts and motives at every opportunity. I would never take their assertions as fact or their 'investigations' as anything but a witch hunt. I would preface every response with something like 'Because of your past duplicity and unfair reportage, I will not respond to your questions until I have researched your motives and sources. Good day."
Posted on 1/1/15 at 6:46 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:These kind of media attacks almost universally originate from democrat talking points. Press Libs are spoon fed by their democrat friends and coordinate with them, as was the case here. So the narrative is often set before the story "breaks".
I would like to see them challenge the media on their facts and motives at every opportunity.
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