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re: Mass. Sheriff offers up his inmates to build Trump wall

Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:48 am to
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:48 am to
It's not slavery if they are being paid.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67920 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:52 am to
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slavery if they are being paid.


Slaves got paid. Food, clothing, and shelter.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29040 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:53 am to
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It's not slavery if they are being paid.


It's not slavery if they aren't.


They're criminals. frick'em.

Can't do the time ... don't do the crime.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71708 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:54 am to
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Slavery can be a punishment for crime under the 13th.


No, it can't.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:01 am to
OP suggested monetary exchange for their labor.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67920 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:02 am to
You must have attended government schools.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71708 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:06 am to
Nope, but I do understand words.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10895 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:20 am to
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Someone tell me how this wouldn't work.


Labor unions.

LINK

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52.222-3 Convict Labor.

As prescribed in 22.202, insert the following clause:

Convict Labor (June 2003)

(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this clause, the Contractor shall not employ in the performance of this contract any person undergoing a sentence of imprisonment imposed by any court of a State, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Northern Mariana Islands, American Samoa, Guam, or the U.S. Virgin Islands.

(b) The Contractor is not prohibited from employing persons—

(1) On parole or probation to work at paid employment during the term of their sentence;

(2) Who have been pardoned or who have served their terms; or

(3) Confined for violation of the laws of any of the States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Northern Mariana Islands, American Samoa, Guam, or the U.S. Virgin Islands who are authorized to work at paid employment in the community under the laws of such jurisdiction, if—

(i) The worker is paid or is in an approved work training program on a voluntary basis;

(ii) Representatives of local union central bodies or similar labor union organizations have been consulted;

(iii) Such paid employment will not result in the displacement of employed workers, or be applied in skills, crafts, or trades in which there is a surplus of available gainful labor in the locality, or impair existing contracts for services;

(iv) The rates of pay and other conditions of employment will not be less than those paid or provided for work of a similar nature in the locality in which the work is being performed; and

(v) The Attorney General of the United States has certified that the work-release laws or regulations of the jurisdiction involved are in conformity with the requirements of Executive Order 11755, as amended by Executive Orders 12608 and 12943.

(End of clause)

Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30191 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:55 am to
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Using inmates takes job opportunities away from the hard working citizens and businesses


If the federal government is funding this project, I'd much rather inmate labor rates as a taxpayer.
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