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re: Marine Corps Times - First female infantry Marines joining battalion on Thursday

Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:21 am to
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:21 am to
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Have you got any data that would support that idea?


Sure. Just google sexual assualt, sexual harassment and fraternization cases in the military.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:23 am to
Lol, you're stupid cartoon makes the case for keeping women out of the military.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:31 am to
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Get rid of the restrictions on felonies


Already enough shite bags in the service, and anyone who has served knows this.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:36 am to
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Already enough shite bags in the service, and anyone who has served knows this.




I should have said misdemeanors. I'm fine with hard core offenders being barr d from service. A kid who got caught smoking pot or lifting some beer from a gas station should be allowed to serve.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:36 am to
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Have you got any data that would support that idea?

Sure. Just google sexual assualt, sexual harassment and fraternization cases in the military.


Then you don't have any data.

Are you saying that the women initiate these attacks on themselves?

I will say that when we were on Desert Storm there was this one WM at Mag-13, the charms of whose breasts a sweaty T-shirt did little to conceal. She was famous. I only saw her once; I would guess her first sergeant got hold of her.

Also alleged at that time was an Air Force gal who sent $30,000 in money orders back home.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 8:42 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:40 am to
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But they let General Mattis in. This is from Duffel Blog, if you don't get it.


Yea that pic isn't real
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:41 am to
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should have said misdemeanors. I'm fine with hard core offenders being barr d from service. A kid who got caught smoking pot or lifting some beer from a gas station should be allowed to serve.


ummmmmm

You are allowed to serve with minor shite on your record like that. I would know and still had no issues getting a clearance.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:45 am to
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Then you don't have any data.
LINK
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An estimated 20,300 active-component members were sexually assaulted in the past year,
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An estimated 116,600 members were sexually harassed in the past year: 22 percent of active-component women and 7 percent of active-component men.
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The majority of sexual assaults, for both the active- and reserve-component members, were perpetrated by other military personnel and occurred in military settings


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Are you saying that the women initiate these attacks on themselves?

What difference does it make who initiated it? The problem wouldn't exist if women weren't there.
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I will say that when we were on Desert Storm there was this one WM at Mag-13, the charms of whose breasts a sweaty T-shirt did little to conceal. I only saw her once; I would guess her first sergeant got hold of her
Thanks, once again, for making my point. As if the 1st Sgt's job wasn't hard enough as it was.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 8:49 am
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:46 am to
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You are allowed to serve with minor shite on your record like that. I would know and still had no issues getting a clearance.


Ok good. I concede the point. Now let's move on to the real issues.

I will say that waivers tighten up for those things when demand for soldiers goes down though. At the height of the Wars waivers were given out like candy. Now it's harder to get them. I was arguing Papa's point that there weren't enough men to fill our ranks, which is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:48 am to
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Now let's move on to the real issues.


females should not be in combat arms
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:49 am to
Or the military in general, maybe the Air Force I guess, but I'll settle for keeping them out of the combat arms.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:52 am to
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I was arguing Papa's point that there weren't enough men to fill our ranks, which is ridiculous.


The head of Army Recruiting seems to disagree with you.

And there is absolutely no reason women can't perform many many of the tasks the Military needs to have done. Belittling their service is counter-productive and unprofessional.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:55 am to
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And there is absolutely no reason women can't perform many many of the tasks the Military needs to have done.


Sure there is. I just listed thousands of them.

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Belittling their service is counter-productive and unprofessional


Link to me belittling their service?
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 8:56 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:56 am to
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Or the military in general, maybe the Air Force I guess


Serious question, did you serve? B/c this answer is beyond ignorant.

All the bullshite jobs that females do in the AF, every other service has its own version.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146612 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:57 am to
I doubt the genie can be put back in the bottle.































Posted by Monsieur le Duc
Château de Chantilly
Member since Aug 2014
673 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:57 am to
There are a lot of ignorant neckbeards posting today. I think we can all agree that Israel doesn't frick around when it comes to the IDF; they seem to have no problem with mixed gender combat units.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:59 am to
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Serious question, did you serve?
Irrelevant but yes.
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All the bull shite jobs that females do in the AF, every other service has its own version.
Good point. No women in the Air Force either then.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:00 am to
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cajunangelle
Be honest. You and Whiskey Papa are the same person right?
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:00 am to
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There are a lot of ignorant neckbeards posting today. I think we can all agree that Israel doesn't frick around when it comes to the IDF; they seem to have no problem with mixed gender combat units.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146612 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:01 am to
I am not an ignorant neckbeard and I am against social experiments in the US military.
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