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Marc Elias gets bitchslapped in court.

Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:19 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31037 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:19 pm
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“It Simply Does Not Make Any Sense”: Judge Trashes Election Lawsuit by the Elias Law Firm


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The firm of former Clinton campaign general counsel Marc Elias has lost another election case in a spectacular fashion. The Chief Judge of the Western District of Wisconsin, James Peterson (an Obama appointee), did not just reject but ridiculed the Elias Law Group challenge to a witness requirement for absentee voting. Elias has been previously sanctioned in court and accused of lying in the Steele dossier scandal by journalists and others.

U.S. District Judge James Peterson ruled against the lawsuit brought by the Elias Law Group, arguing that the witness requirement violated the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The state statute under § 6.87(2) describes what the witness must certify. The statute first sets forth in two sentences what the voter must certify on the ballot envelope. The first requirement concerns the voter certifying that he or she meets the requirements for voting generally and for voting absentee in Wisconsin.

The second requirement is certification that the voter followed the process for preparing the absentee ballot. These are the called the “first voter certification” and the “witness certification.”

The witness certification refers to a witness certifying “all of the above,” which is obviously referring to the language on preparing the absentee ballot.

Elias argued that it requires certification of everything that preceded it on the details of the voter’s record etc.

In the court’s opinion, Judge Peterson expresses disbelief at the lunacy of the Elias argument, writing:

“Normally, the court would begin by searching for other textual clues in the statute. But in this case, the most obvious problem with plaintiffs’ interpretation is that it simply does not make any sense.”

The court then notes that:

“Under plaintiffs’ interpretation, every witness would have to determine the voter’s age, residence, citizenship, criminal history, whether the voter is unable or unwilling to vote in person, whether the voter has voted at another location or is planning to do so, whether the voter is capable of understanding the objective of the voting process, whether the voter is under a guardianship, and, if so, whether a court has determined that the voter is competent. See Wis. Stat. §§ 6.02 and 6.03. Many witnesses would be unable to independently verify much of the required information. The statute allows any adult U.S. citizen to serve as a witness, suggesting that a wide variety of people should be able to do the job…It makes no sense to interpret § 6.87 in a way that would make compliance virtually impossible.

If plaintiffs’ interpretation were correct, it would mean that countless absentee ballots over decades were invalid because the witness certified that the voter was qualified to vote and met the other requirements in the first voter certification, even though the witness had no basis for such a certification.”

However, it gets even wackier. They argued that a simple witness requirement constituted a type of illegal vouching under the Voting Rights Act. This is a reference to the Jim Crow era when a registered voter had to vouch for a new voter, a system meant to prevent African Americans from voting.

The case adds to a long litany of losses and controversies for Elias. That record includes allegations of lying to reporters and subverting voters.

Elias featured prominently in the filings of Special Counsel John Durham. It was Elias who made the key funding available to Fusion GPS, which in turn enlisted Steele to produce his now discredited dossier on Trump and his campaign.

During the campaign, reporters did ask about the possible connection to the campaign, but Clinton campaign officials denied any involvement. Weeks after the election, journalists discovered that the Clinton campaign hid payments for the Steele dossier as “legal fees” among the $5.6 million paid to Perkins Coie.

New York Times reporter Ken Vogel said at the time that Elias denied involvement in the anti-Trump dossier. When Vogel tried to report the story, he said, Elias “pushed back vigorously, saying ‘You (or your sources) are wrong.’” Times reporter Maggie Haberman declared, “Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year.”

It was not just reporters who asked the Clinton campaign about its role in the Steele dossier. John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman, was questioned by Congress and denied categorically any contractual agreement with Fusion GPS. Sitting beside him was Elias, who reportedly said nothing to correct the misleading information given to Congress.

The Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee were ultimately sanctioned by the FEC over the handling of the funding of the dossier through his prior firm.

The Democratic National Committee reportedly later cut ties with Elias.

Elias has been sanctioned in past litigation. Yet, other democrats have continued to hire Elias despite his checkered past. Elias unsuccessfully led efforts to challenge Democratic losses. Elias also was the subject of intense criticism after a tweet that some have called inherently racist.

Elias was back in the news in another major defeat in Maryland. He filed in support of an abusive gerrymandering of the election districts that a court found violated not only violated Maryland law but the state constitution’s equal protection, free speech and free elections clauses. The court found that the map pushed by Elias “subverts the will of those governed.”

Elias has been accused of making millions from gerrymandering and challenging election victories by Republicans (while condemning such actions by Republicans as “anti-Democratic”). His work for New York redistricting that was ridiculed as not only ignoring the express will of the voters to end such gerrymandering while effectively negating the votes of Republican voters.

Recently, Elias’ name popped up again in the scandal involving David Hogg and accounting irregularities. Hogg is accused of raising millions to support liberal candidates but allegedly spending only $263,000 on such candidates while paying $83,000 to the Elias law firm.

Previously, when allegations of self-dealing and accounting improprieties were raised with regard to Black Lives Matter, the group’s attorney, Elias, immediately stood out for many. Elias resigned from his “key role” with BLM as the scandal exploded.

It is not known if the Elias Law Group will appeal this stinging rebuke or cut its losses.


https://jonathanturley.org/2024/05/11/it-simply-does-not-make-any-sense-federal-judge-trashes-latest-election-lawsuit-from-the-elias-law-firm/
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5935 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:26 pm to
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Marc Elias gets bitchslapped in court.


Beautiful. Have an upvote.

I will read it. The headline was enough to get my interest.
Now you have my attention.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147310 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:26 pm to
Elias is a sleazeball hack. I remember hearing of someone getting surgery requesting absentee ballot in NC. It required a witness signature.

When you are military overseas voting absentee your JAG office is the witness for you.

Remember all the military ballots getting lost under Obama? That was low life.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79350 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:37 pm to
Proven yet again the left will fight dirty (and illegally) to retain power.

Frick that dude
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36237 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 6:43 pm to
The usual suspects will ridicule Sydney Powell and Lin Wood but conveniently ignore the antics of this sociopath.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31037 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:02 pm to
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The usual suspects will ridicule Sydney Powell and Lin Wood but conveniently ignore the antics of this sociopath.


Amazing how that works. Elias must be SFP's idol.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68375 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:04 pm to
The same law firm that has an FBI office INSIDE THEIR OFFICE

let that sink in
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5935 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:46 pm to
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Remember all the military ballots getting lost under Obama? That was low life.


Pepperidge Farm 'members.

I wonder what happened?
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5935 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:54 pm to
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The usual suspects will ridicule Sydney Powell and Lin Wood but conveniently ignore the antics of this sociopath.


Amazing how that works. Elias must be SFP's idol.


"It's all Constitutional and Stare Decisis." Sum Frickn' Person

Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22457 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:55 pm to
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Weeks after the election, journalists discovered that the Clinton campaign hid payments for the Steele dossier as “legal fees” among the $5.6 million paid to Perkins Coie.



I bet Alvin Bragg is assembling a double top secret grand jury as we speak.

Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13523 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 7:29 am to
So Elias firm is arguing that no "witness" can verify ALL the facts of the person signing the ballot, therefore there should be no witness requirement.

The judge should have agreed with him. The witness cannot verify all the facts, therefore..............ALLL absentee ballots will be inadmissible in the future in the state of Wisconson.

Posted by TNoon
Member since Nov 2020
2479 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 7:32 am to
i second this motion.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
4471 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:10 am to
Of all the Clinton acolytes, I consider Marc Elias to be the most dangerous threat to the liberties afforded by the Constitution.

The work he did in turning the USPS union into a pro-Democrat scheme to manage Election Ballots is as dangerous as it gets.

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As often said, it’s not the vote that matters, it’s the counting…. or in this instance, the collection of the votes that really matters. Democrat lawyer Mark Elias, in charge of protecting all fraudulent voting initiatives on behalf of the Democrat National Committee, is happy with the news.


LINK
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34830 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:28 am to
Mark Elias is shite wrapped in skin.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
3072 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:03 am to


The only thing that made this better for me (after reading it) was through the lens of a recent xinn interview I saw her do with some count and they were both whining about 'muh democracies'. . .
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
745 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:52 am to
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Marc Elias gets bitchslapped in court.

Sounds like a fun time. Dude needs to go away.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2976 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:53 am to
'Siri, bring up the Wikipedia early life section on Marc Elias'
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