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Male student protected and served after NOT raping his gf

Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:47 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:47 am
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Neal's girlfriend, Jane Doe, never accused him of wrongdoing, and famously stated, "I'm fine and I wasn't raped." But CSU-Pueblo initiated an inquiry into their forbidden relationship, which violated an informal rule about physical trainers dating athletes. The university prohibited them from contacting one another during the course of the investigation, but Doe paid little heed to the no-contact order and sent Neal several supportive messages.

Neal, though, was worried her messages could get him in even more trouble, so he promptly informed Roosevelt Wilson, the university official charged with investigating the matter under Title IX—the federal state prohibiting sex-based inequality at institutions of higher education.


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Neal asked Wilson what he should do about the fact that Doe was still texting him.

"I said, well, she's snapchatted me, what do you want me to do? He told me to open [the snapchat messages] and take a screenshot and send them to him, so I did that," he said.

This turned out to be bad advice.

"[Roosevelt's] email response back to me was, you could be potentially be in complication with your no contact order for opening the snapchats that she sent you," said Neal.


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This was just one of many injustices perpetrated against Neal by his university. After denying Neal any meaningful way to demonstrate his innocence, CSU-Pueblo effectively ended his career, cancelling out his scholarships and opportunities to play football and pursue a wrestling career.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:49 am to
Par for the course.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:51 am to
It may require a bloody revolution to root out all this bullshite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:51 am to
this part is ridiculous

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Neal's case is unique in that Doe, the alleged victim never made a complaint, and denied that Neal had done anything deserving of punishment.

Instead, a third party—who was an acquaintance of Doe's—made the complaint. This person, a female student and trainer, spotted a hickey on Doe's neck and surmised that she had been assaulted by Neal. Doe texted Neal to let him know he was likely to be questioned by university officials.


jealousy is a bitch
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:51 am to
Very Kafkaesque.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:51 am to
Are these unjustly accused having any luck in their lawsuits?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:52 am to
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Neal's case is unique in that Doe, the alleged victim never made a complaint, and denied that Neal had done anything deserving of punishment.

Instead, a third party—who was an acquaintance of Doe's—made the complaint. This person, a female student and trainer, spotted a hickey on Doe's neck and surmised that she had been assaulted by Neal.


wtf
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:53 am to
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Instead, a third party—who was an acquaintance of Doe's—made the complaint.


Ah yes the old two witnesses and a confession routine.

Where's the bonfire going to be for this heretic?

The third party witness has a long tradition...

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Witnesses were then called to testify against the heretic. Testimony by anyone was encouraged, thus wives denounced their husbands, mothers accused their children, and so forth. Even criminals, other heretics and excommunicates could appear as witnesses. The accused would never know who had testified against him, so everyone felt safer. It took at least two witnesses to force an arrest of a heretic. Suspects with good reputations often required more witnesses in order to build a case against the accused.


The Inquisition
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:59 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:54 am to
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Are these unjustly accused having any luck in their lawsuits?

some are. some aren't

the bureaucrat who issued the report in this case will rot in hell, if it exists
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:56 am to
I found the problem


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Roosevelt Wilson



I am sure he has never had to deal with a real world problem in his entire life.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:59 am to
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"I'm fine and I wasn't raped."


"I'm fine"?

He's fricked.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53014 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:00 am to
Where were the trainers like this when I was playing football and pursuing a rasslin career?
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:01 am to
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Instead, a third party—who was an acquaintance of Doe's—made the complaint. This person, a female student and trainer, spotted a hickey on Doe's neck and surmised that she had been assaulted by Neal.


I bet that is one insufferable fricking count...and some "man" will be married to her one day.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:03 am to
Looks like it was between a football player and a student athletic trainer. Those relationships are forbidden.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:05 am to
liberalism has common threads with Islam, only with Islam, when the WOMAN is raped, she gets in trouble. Same mindset, the muzzies need to overtake so they can get their mind right tho.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:26 am to
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Roosevelt Wilson


needs to be found with two entry wounds in the back of his head, floating down the Colorado River.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:28 am to
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Instead, a third party—who was an acquaintance of Doe's—made the complaint.


Wtf?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422576 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:30 am to
in many of these cases the alleged victim doesn't want to make a complaint and is either influenced by a third party to do so or a third party makes the complaint. sometimes the psychological manipulation by "advocates" is simply terrible and disgusting
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:31 am to
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Instead, a third party—who was an acquaintance of Doe's—made the complaint.


Happened to my brother-in-law. He was talking to another guy about a business golf game and said something rather mundane like, "any pretty women playing with us?" His assistant heard that and thought it was funny.

His assistant was laughing about it to another assistant in the manner of, "he's so funny".

THAT assistant... who wasn't in the room and witnessed nothing... called HR on my brother-in-law.

Some people are truly only happy if they are making someone else miserable.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 9:32 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56361 posts
Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:40 am to
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Neal's case is unique in that Doe, the alleged victim never made a complaint, and denied that Neal had done anything deserving of punishment.
Not the first time this has happened. FIRE reported a situation in which a girl's roommate claimed rape after the guy and girl in question had consensual sex more than once.

I want to say it was at Weber St., but I don't remember. The guy was expelled, though.
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