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Mainstream political polls commit fraud

Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:19 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:19 am
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Mainstream polls use up to 58 percent more Democrats than Republicans



The credibility of mainstream political polls took a serious hit following the 2016 election. Most predicted an easy victory for Hillary Clinton. The entire political class believed she was a shoo-in, and that the election would be a mere formality. But the polls and the pundits were wrong, glaringly so.

It appears they are wrong again, because they persist in making the same mistakes they have been making for years.

Most pollsters and pundits report that President Trump’s approval ratings are in the tank — consistently in the mid- to upper-30 percent range. His disapproval rates average a whopping 57 percent, according to the polls cited below.

The following table reveals why.



In every poll, Democrat respondents outnumbered Republicans by significant amounts. The Economist poll was the worst. Only 24 percent of respondents (360) were Republicans compared to 38 percent (570) Democrats – which means that 58 percent more Democrats were polled than Republicans, as shown in the %D/R column. On average, in these seven widely recognized national polls, only 29 percent (409 people) of the total 1,383 polled were Republicans, while 37 percent (518) were Democrats. Another way of saying it is that, on average, 29 percent more Democrats than Republicans were polled.

This occurs because of the way these polls are constructed. Most use a methodology that queries a random sample of adults. That sounds “fair” and one would expect it to produce roughly equivalent numbers of Republicans and Democrats, but it does not.
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I do know inherently there is a Democratic bias in the polls. And most [pollsters] will deny it… Typically, the mainstream media and the major polling companies will never admit their bias to you. This is like an alcoholic not admitting to using alcohol. They are in denial.

Quoted in the same article, independent pollster John Zogby said, “I am a liberal Democrat, but I always felt that other polls over-sampled Democrats and under-sampled Republicans.”
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McLaughlin Associates uses likely voters, as does Rasmussen. Using this method, Trump’s approval ratings are significantly better, currently averaging 46 percent, while the disapproval rate is lower. Similarly, the breakdown of Republicans versus Democrats reflects how people would likely vote if an election were held today, as opposed to a random sample or even a sample of registered voters.



The left-wing bias embedded in most national polls also skews poll responses on virtually all partisan issues, giving an inaccurate reading of public sentiment on everything from taxes to school choice, from immigration to national defense.

McLaughlin says:

Not only does it affect [Trump’s] job rating and favorable rating, it also affects the policies and issues these polls purport to measure. Maybe this is why so many Republicans, Independents and Trump voters seem to disregard media polls. It appears the media is once again sacrificing its credibility for its liberal, anti-Trump bias
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16089 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:23 am to
Water is wet, polls are flawed. Color me shocked.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24745 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:24 am to
They always over sample dims by double digits.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:27 am to
This is not necessarily a bad thing considering the regressive meltdown it provides when the truth comes out during election time and America rejects the regressive ideology.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4400 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:34 am to
Because scientific polling utilizes random sampling and there are significantly more Democrats than Republicans in this country.

Also, any article that discusses party affiliation in polling without giving equal attention to independents is probably trying to lie to you.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:36 am to
The McLaughlin poll had many other results that should get Congress, and congressional leadership in particular, to sit up and take notice:

-- Only 21 percent believe congressional leadership is helping “drain the swamp.” Forty-nine percent said that congressional leadership supports the swamp.
--Sixty-three percent believe House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell should be replaced.
-- Only 15 percent said they would support the reelection of Speaker Ryan and Majority Leader McConnell.
-- A majority of those who support Ryan and McConnell are Democrats.
-- More people (21 percent) support Antifa street thugs than Ryan and McConnell.
-- Forty-six percent are more likely to vote for their member of Congress if they support Trump’s immigrant vetting policies; 38 percent are more likely to vote for them if they don’t.
--Fifty-two percent are more likely to vote for their member of Congress if the lawmaker supports Trump’s ban on transgenders in the military: 28 percent are less likely to vote for their member if the lawmaker supports transgenders in the military.
-- Fifty-six percent of voters favor repealing and replacing Obamacare; 39 percent oppose.
-- Fifty percent are less likely to vote for their member of Congress if the lawmaker refuses to repeal -- Obamacare mandates and taxes, while 36 percent are more likely to vote for their lawmaker.
-- Fifty-three percent of voters favor less government; only 32 percent want more.Congress recently held a hearing on curtailing free speech.

The McLaughlin poll reveals that:

-- Eighty-five percent believe freedom of speech is a fundamental right. Only 9 percent believe it should be restricted when offensive.
-- Despite the fallout from Charlottesville, Virginia, 85 percent believe the Constitution supports the rights of everyone to freedom of speech, no matter how offensive. Only 8 percent believe it should be restricted.
--Sixty-three percent oppose Antifa efforts to silence people they disagree with.
-- Forty-three percent oppose Internet companies using the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) “hate list.” This blacklist names many mainstream conservative groups the SPLC disagrees with politically.
-- Only 32 percent supported using the SPLC’s list.

This poll suggests that many more voters support conservative ideas and policies than mainstream media polls claim. Congress should take a very close look at this poll, because it is a much better indication of those policies and candidates a majority is likely to support.
This post was edited on 9/23/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:37 am to
Many of us have been saying this for two years.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13608 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:46 am to
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there are significantly more Democrats than Republicans in this country.
than why is the Democratic Party at its lowest point in 100 years?? If there are so many democrats, why don't they control a bulk of government??

Ah, that's right. Bc there's not.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:50 am to
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--Sixty-three percent believe House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell should be replaced.
-- Only 15 percent said they would support the reelection of Speaker Ryan and Majority Leader McConnell.
-- A majority of those who support Ryan and McConnell are Democrats.
-- More people (21 percent) support Antifa street thugs than Ryan and McConnell.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146688 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:52 am to
Is it true that they went beyond having these ready. They sent them out for publication?



What is the true story?

Posted by Jyrdis
TD Premium Member Level III
Member since Aug 2015
12791 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:56 am to
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This is not necessarily a bad thing considering the regressive meltdown it provides when the truth comes out during election time and America rejects the regressive ideology.




:hesrightyouknow:
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:56 am to
For the most part they are push polls.

They are not to measure opinion they are to affect it.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:57 am to
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there are significantly more Democrats than Republicans in this country


Total falsehood
Posted by ztownbird
Trump, USA
Member since Oct 2012
991 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:19 am to
Nice troll. I hope you don't really believe this because if you do you are really fricking dumb.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72061 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Is it true that they went beyond having these ready. They sent them out for publication?
Yea, they did.

I bought one for my dad in pristine condition for Christmas.
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