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lulz...Man freed early from life sentence by Obama back in jail
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:08 pm
Man freed early from life sentence by Obama back in jail
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Always wondered how you win the figurative lottery by getting a pardon or had your sentences commuted. Luck of the draw? The way you formulate your letter?
So one is dead a week after being released and this clown apparently didn't learn anything while inside.
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A San Antonio man who was freed from life in prison by President Barack Obama is back behind bars after allegedly crashing his vehicle into another motorist and undercover police cars while fleeing from a drug deal Thursday.
Robert M. Gill, 68, whose life sentence for cocaine and heroin distribution conspiracy was commuted by Obama and expired in 2015, was profiled last year in the Express-News about his readjustment to life on the outside.
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Man freed early from life sentence by Obama back in jail. After months in a halfway house, then living in a warehouse at his brother's business, Gill had settled into his own place. He had seen his life prison sentence for drug distribution conspiracy commuted by President Obama, but on Friday, he was back before a federal judge on another drug charge.
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Always wondered how you win the figurative lottery by getting a pardon or had your sentences commuted. Luck of the draw? The way you formulate your letter?
So one is dead a week after being released and this clown apparently didn't learn anything while inside.
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:11 pm to idlewatcher
Another one?
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:11 pm to FanInLA
And about 30% of the terrorists he freed from Gitmo have returned to the battlefield.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:18 pm to idlewatcher
That's the problem with making prison about rehabilitation. It's not going to happen for most of them. It has to be about execution of justice (punishment).
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:18 pm to idlewatcher
We have he best pardons don't we folks.
....wait a minute.
....wait a minute.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 1:18 pm to idlewatcher
lmao
Posted on 2/7/17 at 2:03 pm to Wild Thang
He was an old-timer too. 68 
Posted on 2/7/17 at 2:05 pm to idlewatcher
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after allegedly crashing his vehicle into another motorist and undercover police cars
Never get enough of these non-violent drug offenders.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 2:09 pm to idlewatcher
It's just one case.
I'll bet most other convicts are peachy keen...
I'll bet most other convicts are peachy keen...
Posted on 2/7/17 at 2:18 pm to FooManChoo
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That's the problem with making prison about rehabilitation. It's not going to happen for most of them. It has to be about execution of justice (punishment).
We have never in this country even remotely tried to rehabilitate prisoners. We pay for these people to be babysat with out any care of helping them get back into society after their time is served.
Then we drop them on the street where the majority of places won't hire them. Except for the few jobs who are so desperate for employees that they will hire anyone to maintain any semblance of a staff at less than livable wages. But, yes lets continue business as usual when it comes to the prison system that incarcerates more people per capita than any other developed country by far.
Some people need to be in jail and some people will never learn admittedly, but lets not act like we are doing all that we could to help either.
Maybe offer classes and trades to learn in prison. Support for people to find jobs, real jobs when they get out of prison. It's simple math paying for someone to get back in society the right way and offering a clear path to do so is a lot cheaper than paying for their Housing, food, healthcare most of their lives.
Other countries do this now and it works.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 3:04 pm to mindbreaker
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Maybe offer classes and trades to learn in prison. Support for people to find jobs, real jobs when they get out of prison. It's simple math paying for someone to get back in society the right way and offering a clear path to do so is a lot cheaper than paying for their Housing, food, healthcare most of their lives
So make getting a solid start in life easier for those who go to prison than those who are out in the world not breaking the law?
Posted on 2/7/17 at 3:07 pm to the808bass
And, there's a good chance the charges he'lol end up with this time will appear non-violent." Flight from an officer, reckless operation, possession. Never mind the injury he could or may have caused.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 3:07 pm to idlewatcher
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So one is dead a week after being released and this clown apparently didn't learn anything while inside.
What is your skill set at 68 after you've been in prison?
There is more to it, probably.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 3:09 pm to Knight of Old
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It's just one case.
No sir, it's two......that we know of. Not every one is going to be sensationalized.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 3:12 pm to mindbreaker
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Maybe offer classes and trades to learn in prison. Support for people to find jobs, real jobs when they get out of prison. It's simple math paying for someone to get back in society the right way and offering a clear path to do so is a lot cheaper than paying for their Housing, food, healthcare most of their lives.
I agree with that assessment 100%. People are fricked once they get out with a felony. I know this from personal experience with a family member. Houston Workforce Commission helps "place" felons post-incarceration and the jobs available to them are comparative to working at Wendy's.
Some companies like Coke/Homie Depot etc do in fact hire felons and perhaps they get a tax break or some other incentive for doing so.
One thing to keep in mind however - prisons were not designed to educate. They were designed to remove people from society, but we are where we are with the floodgates open so it's a problem we all have to address.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 3:15 pm to Jake88
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So make getting a solid start in life easier for those who go to prison than those who are out in the world not breaking the law?
I'm talking about the problem with our prison system. That is an issue with our current education system. Stay on subject. Both are equally bad and need to be fixed and are costing us way to much money. It's not a competition between problems because both are problems equally draining on us as tax payers.
I'm fine with former prisoners becoming skilled tradesmen when the majority of our youth just starting out doesn't want to do it.
We have a severe lack of qualified people in that area.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 4:13 pm to mindbreaker
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We have never in this country even remotely tried to rehabilitate prisoners. We pay for these people to be babysat with out any care of helping them get back into society after their time is served.
Wrong. Just ignorantly wrong.
You are obviously not familiar with the Federal Bureau of Prisons or the Federal Halfway House system or with Federal Supervised Release under the US Probation Office.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 4:21 pm to Jimbeaux
Sure im familiar with them they are all shite. Just because these departments exist doesn't mean they are run properly. Our sustained prison population alone tells you they are a complete failure.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 4:24 pm to Jake88
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So make getting a solid start in life easier for those who go to prison than those who are out in the world not breaking the law?
Statistically speaking communities with higher employment have much less crime than those with a lot of unemployment. Shocker I know.
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