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Louisiana - Dem Rep to Sponsor Bill Allowing Mayor to Fire Police Chief

Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:41 am
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:41 am
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A state representative (Rep. Ted James, D-Baton Rouge) says he will offer a bill at the capitol this spring giving the Baton Rouge mayor the power to oust the Baton Rouge Police Chief.
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Broome cannot force Dabadie out and she cannot fire him just because she wants to.
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An important note: James said even if his bill were to become law, it would only apply going forward. Broome would still not have the power to oust Dabadie.
Thoughts?
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 8:42 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:42 am to
i believe the bigger issues are based in union agreements and maybe civil admin procedures.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:42 am to
Setting aside Broome, sure it seems logical to me.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:44 am to
Currently she cannot fire the police chief? Or does it have to be for cause, but she wants to fire him without cause?
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:45 am to
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does it have to be for cause, but she wants to fire him without cause?

Yes. It has to be with cause. But, she's racist and wants to fire him because he's white.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:45 am to
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i believe the bigger issues are based in union agreements and maybe civil admin procedures.

It would be delicious irony if a Democrat mayor couldn't proceed as they'd like due to union agreements and civil admin procedures.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:46 am to
I said this earlier, I think the Chief should be nominated by the Mayor and approved by the City Council.

I don't think it should be Civil Service protected.

JMHO, and has nothing to do who is mayor. We voted in Mrs. Broome and she should have her guy/gal.

I would vote with James on this bill so that the next mayor could chose.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:54 am to
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Setting aside Broome, sure it seems logical to me.


Agreed.

Broome is a blithering idiot but it makes sense the chief officer of law enforcement is answerable to the head of the executive.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 8:55 am to
Yeah people shouldn't let Broome get in the way of a correct move, especially given what James said.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:24 am to
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Thoughts?


I think changing the law is fricking stupid. Currently the Mayor appoints a Chief and can remove them but they must have cause. That's a GOOD thing because what we don't need is the Chief position to become a political favor appointment / Mayor's bitch.

What this boils down to is Dabadie wouldn't let BLM run rampant with their riots over the summer and Broome is pissy about that. So what's the proposed answer? To pass legislation that would allow her to appoint someone more sympathetic to protesters she's sympathetic with.

Anyone that would be for this change hasn't really thought it through (or else their just fans of the spoils system).
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 9:27 am
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:27 am to
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Currently the Mayor appoints a Chief and can remove them but they must have cause. That's a GOOD thing because what we don't need is the Chief position to become a political favor appointment / Mayor's bitch.
it is slightly different. A mayor appoints a Chief, and then he has civil protection from one administration to another. Meaning that, unlike most appointments, you could have a Chief that was appointed 3 or 4 administrations back, etc. And, outside of just cause, that Chief can essentially remain in position until he dies/retires.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:32 am to
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it is slightly different. A mayor appoints a Chief, and then he has civil protection from one administration to another. Meaning that, unlike most appointments, you could have a Chief that was appointed 3 or 4 administrations back, etc. And, outside of just cause, that Chief can essentially remain in position until he dies/retires.


You say all that like it's a bad thing or at least better than what the proposed legislation would create: a political toady.

The last thing I want to see is more power centralized in the Mayor's office.

The only upside to this would be being able to get rid of a Chief that's merely ineffectual, but that's not what we have currently.

At the very least I would rather see the authority for creating the new rule given to the Council to decide instead of a dictate from the Legislature.
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 9:36 am
Posted by Jack Bauer7
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:36 am to
thx white liberals of BR for putting this women into office

lawd have mercy
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:39 am to
quote:

I think changing the law is fricking stupid. Currently the Mayor appoints a Chief and can remove them but they must have cause. That's a GOOD thing because what we don't need is the Chief position to become a political favor appointment / Mayor's bitch.

What this boils down to is Dabadie wouldn't let BLM run rampant with their riots over the summer and Broome is pissy about that. So what's the proposed answer? To pass legislation that would allow her to appoint someone more sympathetic to protesters she's sympathetic with.

Anyone that would be for this change hasn't really thought it through (or else their just fans of the spoils system).


I think one of the following should be the system used:

1) The police chief is a political appointment, and subject to confirmation by council. A chief can be replaced at any time, but new one must go through the council.

2) Remove BRPD completely from the mayor's office, and make the Police Chief an elected position.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:40 am to
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At the very least I would rather see the authority for creating the new rule given to the Council to decide instead of a dictate from the Legislature.


Completely agree here. This is insane that this requires "permission" from Daddy State.

I cannot wait until we get a new constitution that dramatically limits state powers.
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:41 am to
Let's not do that,
Posted by Amblin
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:30 pm to
If they change the rule and Broome hires black Chief, he has proven case of discrimination by race plain and simple. If she cannot prove she is removing him because of performance, he will get paid.
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