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re: Looking Forward to Seeing Macron Free France
Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:52 pm to Mo Jeaux
Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:52 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Do you really think Macron's immigration policies are "Merkle-esque"?
He hasn't given indications of anything else.
He's praised Merkel’s open-door refugee policy for “(saving) our collective dignity”. While he's on record for saying he will prioritize "asylum seekers" (refugees who are "seeking protection") to process them within six months, he has yet to put forth his process for vetting the veracity of such claims. My worry on this is that the vetting system will consist of little more than:
French official: "Are you seeking protection?"
Radical Muslim: "I AM HERE SEEKING TO KILL INFIDELS!! ALLAHU ACKBAR!!"
French official: "Eh?"
Radical Muslim: "I mean 'yes'."
French official: "Welcome to France!"
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:53 pm to BugAC
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The response was accurate, that a small 2% minority did so in America.
I don't think this response was accurate. I'm willing to bet that a significantly higher percentage of Americans were "for gay marriage".
Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:56 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I don't think this response was accurate. I'm willing to bet that a significantly higher percentage of Americans were "for gay marriage".
I don't think he was referring to supporters, but actual gay people. Same can be said with Sharia law. There are actual believers, and there are sympathetic liberals who want to appease them as a show of tolerance which would boost their 7% number, as stated earlier, to a larger number.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:02 pm to BugAC
So, like SCH said:
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terrible apples to oranges comparison for so many reasons
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:05 pm to Mo Jeaux
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terrible apples to oranges comparison for so many reasons
Not at all. You clearly didn't understand my first post.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:06 pm to Navytiger74
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He's going to have a hell of a time trying to put together a coalition that allows him to govern.
He'll have a lot more support than his opponent would have.
En Marche probably won't win a true majority, but it's possible, and they will very likely win the plurality of seats. Turnout among Le Pen supporters will be terrible after how badly she got crushed, and those on the far left (economically and socially) will be less likely to turn out too. Macron is willing to compromise, so he'll be able to put together a coalition.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:10 pm to BugAC
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Not at all. You clearly didn't understand my first post.
You're right. I don't understand the hysterics being displayed on this board after the election.
There are definitely immigration issues to be addressed, but the gnashing of teeth because a guy that is more conservative than their current president won the election is kind of odd.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:28 pm to Mo Jeaux
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There are definitely immigration issues to be addressed, but the gnashing of teeth because a guy that is more conservative than their current president won the election is kind of odd.
Yeah, because 80% of Paris voted for Macron because he was fiscally conservative....
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:39 pm to BugAC
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Yeah, because 80% of Paris voted for Macron because he was fiscally conservative....
No, namely he offered solutions that seemed reasonable. Le Pen was much more traditionally left than Macron on everything but immigration.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:43 pm to Navytiger74
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He's going to have a hell of a time trying to put together a coalition that allows him to govern. Hope it works out. His economic platform could be a boon to France and the continent if implemented. Their State is strangling them.
Agreed, but the EU-imposed refugee crisis isn't helping anything either. Macron's last attempt at reforming hiring/firing rules to make employment more at will was met with staunch defiance by unions and was politically watered down to the point of impotence.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:43 pm to BugAC
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Yeah, because 80% of Paris voted for Macron because he was fiscally conservative....
80% of Paris voted for Macron because he wasn't named Le Pen.
Macron isn't fiscally conservative, but he's definitely more conservative than somebody who grew their party by absorbing the old Communist Party.
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This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:51 pm to RollTide4Ever
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:54 pm to Navytiger74
quote:This!
His economic platform could be a boon to France and the continent if implemented. Their State is strangling them.
LePen was left of Macron economically.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:55 pm to RollTide4Ever
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He ran on deregulating the French economy.
Want to bet that part gets forgotten?
He'll pull a Bill Clinton - "Oh I wasn't going to raise taxes but I looked and looked for a week and we just can't avoid it."
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:21 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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terrible apples to oranges comparison for so many reasons
You're right. The gheys aren't violent headchopping terrorists. Other than that?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:25 pm to RollTide4Ever
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He ran on deregulating the French economy.
The Rothschild Banker with Senior Citizen Wife is gonna do that?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:35 pm to montanagator
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Like it is in Russia?
What is the connection supposed to be?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:43 pm to AirFarce1
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Having the same rights as other citizens is the same as imposing sharia ??
What rights were they deprived of?
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:44 pm to BugAC
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You are focusing on the inconsequentials of the argument. The initial argument was that a minority can not enact legislation because of their size. The response was accurate, that a small 2% minority did so in America. The details of what is being voted on or imposed is irrelevant.
That^.
It should have been obvious imo.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:31 pm to BugAC
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You are focusing on the inconsequentials of the argument. The initial argument was that a minority can not enact legislation because of their size. The response was accurate, that a small 2% minority did so in America.
Are you calling the constitution "legislation" that was implemented by "2%" of the population? Are you saying the 14th Amendment to the constitution was written and implemented by gays? Because the 14th amendment is what resulted in marriage equality.
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