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Posted by darkhorse
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:35 pm to
A detailed article on this:


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The fuel itself is also plentiful. Deuterium is produced from sea water and is therefore considered unlimited, while tritium is “bred” from lithium. “We already mine enough lithium to supply a worldwide fleet of reactors, so with tritium you never have too much built up, and that’s what keeps it safe. Tritium would be a health risk if there were enough released, but it is safe enough in small quantities. You don’t need very much to run a reactor because it is a million times more powerful than a chemical reaction,” McGuire notes.


Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:36 pm to
It was the other hippie, CherryGarciaMan. My bad. You all look alike to me.
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:40 pm to
Washington University ahead of Lockheed???


LINK


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Researchers at the University of Washington (Seattle) claim to have invented a simpler fusion reactor that is more economical than a coal-fired power plant, yet produces zero green house gases.




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it will cost about $2.7 billion to build a gigaWatt Dynomak power plant
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:43 pm to
wait.

how do we (that is, LMT) create 'hundreds of millions of degrees' of heat to break the atoms and subsequently cause the fusion of ions??

hundreds of millions of degrees????????????
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:45 pm to
My guess is that everyone getting grants from the US govt has to make "breakthrough" announcements every few years to justify additional research funding. If this stuff was even close to 5 years out, you'd see $100B in investment today.
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:47 pm to
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C


i tend to agree. I get that once this fusion process is complete, it provides great, clean energy.

WTF must it cost to generate hundreds of millions of degrees of heat to cause start the fusion process
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:50 pm to
hmm, this thread gets more attention on the Poli board than it does on the Tech board.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:51 pm to
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hmm, this thread gets more attention on the Poli board than it does on the Tech board.
the "Tech" board is actually the "consumer electronics" board.
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:52 pm to
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Tech board.


There's a tech board?????
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:54 pm to
What are the possible applications for this technology?

Could this fit on an airplane or replace a boiler in a small industrial power plant?

Did the same military industrial complex that pioneered the internet actually render the Middle East oil fields obsolete before we actually ran out of oil?
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 2:55 pm to
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I did? I don't doubt you, I just don't remember saying as much.

quote:

HempHead


Shocker
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 3:00 pm to
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Could this fit on an airplane or replace a boiler in a small industrial power plant?


eventually, yes, but not at first. The key will be continually scaling up the size of the reactor while scaling down the temperature containment. Eventually, the power plants will be large enough to run huge industrial facilities and the temperature containment will be small enough to fit them on airplanes.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 3:00 pm to
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"consumer electronics" board


That's my observation. If it's any more in-depth than consumer electronics, it's better off discussed on the OT or even the money board.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90589 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 3:19 pm to
I've long said that advancements in nuclear technology will be the future of energy as we move away from coal.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:11 pm to
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Posted by Traffic Circle
Maybe being a petroleum engineer is not such a good career choice?




We still want plastics and other by-products.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:14 pm to
The global warming 'debate' may be moot in 10 years.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:14 pm to
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Maybe being a petroleum engineer is not such a good career choice?


You'll see no global decline in petroleum production during your career. Enjoy the money.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:16 pm to
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We still want plastics and other by-products.


Awesome. We can make them by taking CO2 out of the air.
LINK
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The world’s first successful large-scale production of a polypropylene carbonate (PPC) polymer using waste carbon dioxide (CO2) as a key raw material has resulted from a projected funded in part by the U.S. Department of Energy's Office of Fossil Energy.


Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

We can make them by taking CO2 out of the air.


not entirely. for just this application you still need +50% raw petroleum. It will take time. This isn't new. Just not economical yet...
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