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re: LIVE (*now adjourned*): Supreme Court hearing case on Trump's Colorado ballot eligibility

Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:46 am to
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:46 am to
This Jason Murray = weak sauce. He is making a fool of himself.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 10:50 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39634 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:47 am to
Kagan isnt even buying it.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26089 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:47 am to
quote:

It’s a great way to piss all nine of them off. I’ve heard state district judges threaten to expel lawyers from the courtroom because they won’t shut up. I can only imagine how much worse that would be at SCOTUS.


It speaks to the younger generation of lawyers who are so self-absorbed and insulated due to growing up with no social interaction that they never learned how to talk to others and respect those with authority. The fact this dipshit went to Harvard just a few years ago only confirms how entitled this guy is.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96657 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:47 am to
Unlike Captain Kirk and his solution to the Kobayashi Maru, “it had the virtue of never being tried” isn’t going to get them a commendation for original thinking.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39634 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:48 am to
His entire argument balances delicately on the assumption that Trump committed a clear crime that no one, including him, has even been charged with.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96657 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:48 am to
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The fact this dipshit went to Harvard just a few years ago only confirms how entitled this guy is.


This guy clerked for Kagan at SCOTUS and Gorsuch on the 10th circuit. And they are both reaming him out like a cheap porn star.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31328 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:49 am to
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I’m fairly ignorant of how this works. But, do the justices have a private session where they discuss/debate issues related to the case or is it only during oral arguments?


This case was argued in the briefs filed by the parties in this case. Oral arguments are for the justices to get questions in the record. They will vote on this privately, probably today. Who knows when decision will be released other than before Colorado election.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44056 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:49 am to
“What’s a state doing deciding who other people get to vote for for President?”

Kagan continues to ask the seminal question.
She’s not my favorite Justice, but she’s bringing the heat with this singular point.
Respect.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96657 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:50 am to
Normally, arguments heard today are held for an opinion release months down the road.

This seems like the kind of case where they don’t follow normal procedure.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20913 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:50 am to
quote:

It speaks to the younger generation of lawyers who are so self-absorbed and insulated due to growing up with no social interaction that they never learned how to talk to others and respect those with authority. The fact this dipshit went to Harvard just a few years ago only confirms how entitled this guy is.


This dumbass is refusing to pivot to secondary or tertiary arguments. He is forging ahead despite the fact that they are clearly not buying it. Colorado is going to lose unless something changes here, but he doesn't appear to be willing to try anything else.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96657 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:51 am to
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Kagan continues to ask the seminal question. She’s not my favorite Justice, but she’s bringing the heat with this singular point. Respect.


Kagan is a leftist but one who understands the law.

I see this being 7-2 with her voting with the majority while dumb and dumber vote for Colorado.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116387 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:52 am to
Despite being a complete Prog, Kagan is someone people at least respect.

She somewhat deserves to be there and can be reasonable, even if I disagree with her a lot.

Soto and Kentaji don't deserve to be there and suck.
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
4841 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:56 am to
I have heard enough that Colorado will lose this. Justices are not buying this and just said the is a vehicle to find Trump guilty of insurrection and he has NOT been charged. Seems case is over right there. He isn't guilty therefore can't be barred.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1452 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:56 am to
We don't have a Constitutional Democracy.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5671 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:56 am to
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but is not the core concern = "first - is what happened on J6 really an insurrection - under what definition - under what determination - under what action taken in response? "second - IF there really is a technical finding of 'yes - it was an insurrection' - THEN - did Trump participate in the 'insurrecction' or did he incite the 'insurrection'?


Actually that is what the original trial had in Colorado
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116387 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:57 am to
You can't always tell in oral argument. I had to argue once before the LASpCrt and they peppered me and obliterated me with questions, barely asked my opponent a single one. I won unanimously (on very technical grounds).

But in this case, you can tell

CO gets slapped the frick down
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
2790 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:58 am to
Thx
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39634 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:00 am to
damn. KJB just bodied this kid.
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:02 am to
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damn. KJB just bodied this kid.


I was not expecting that from her.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44056 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:05 am to
Stevenson steps up to the gallows ….

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