re: Lindsey Graham: I don't know what America first means

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"America First" is meaningless rhetoric... Something easily packaged for consumption by the uneducated masses.

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Yep, "America First" means frick all. It's a vague cover letter that just dresses up the underlying agenda. Like....

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Kind of like "Hope and Change?"

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EXACTLY!


re-posting what I said the other day:



The real question pertains to evaluating the specifics in the underlying agenda.

At this point, personally, and as I read across this board, I am not sure there is even a clear understanding and articulation of the specifics of what that agenda is(and when you contrast Trump's rhetoric with his cabinet nominees and their stances, I am not sure this administration even fully knows)?

So there is just all this talking past each other and people arguing while on different planes of assumption. Where it seems like the real dividing line is how you feel about Trump the personality.

Because for me personally, it is hard to square his rhetoric today with not only some of his past statements but those of the people he has selected to carry out his agenda.

For instance you have Tillerson testifying that he sees the NATO treaty as inviolable, while his boss questions it's relevance. Mattis goes on a rant of how invaluable NATO is to America's strength in the world, European stability and hedging Russian aggression. His boss says its obsolete. Both nominees take hard stances on Russia's harmful aims that come at the expense of American values and strength, while Trump talks about reducing sanctions set up to punish the breaking of international law, human rights violations, escalation actions toward the U.S. and the suppression of domestic freedoms.

Trump brings on Tom Price to set the health care agenda, while undercutting many of his positions and ideas when Trump suggests Medicare should negotiate with drug companies. Leaving Tom Price deflecting to avoid stating his position is not in support of that. The same Tom Price that voted against and rallied in opposition of that same idea under Medicare part D.

Is Trump's an administration that is making populist appeals but will govern with mostly establishment party movement on Russia and European alliances? Or is he truly looking to step back from the world stage and aiming to undo and shift strategic alliances? Which idea is actually the right one? And will people that pick a side not waffle if this administration chooses the other direction?

Will Trump push for Medicare negotiation with drug companies? Or will he take Price's prior position that this is a "solution in search of a problem." Implying there is no problem. What position is better and are people going to stand by that or bend depending on what side of Trumps cult of personality you fall on?

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Trump should have employed a deep slogan like "Hope and Change". Amirite?

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Pretty much the same thing. And they're pretty effective because they leave the context up to the consumer of the message. Each potential voter can apply it to their own personal situation and biases.

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It does mean other first world countries will no longer be able to live off of America's coat tails free of charge.

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Can you give me a list?


(jeezus Julio Jones is a beast)

If you listen closely, he has a froidien slip. He said his goal was to the un.

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Tigerdev

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Its funny that your only defense is "but but Obama!!"

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If you're going to trot this little bullshite morsel out going forward, you need to back your arse up and see how many times your mud flap eared muslim tranny, and the rest of you retards, constantly blamed President Bush. You arse clowns were well into that failures second term and STILL blaming President Bush for obambas garbage.
In other words, GFY and stop your lying, you POS!