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re: Let's Talk Assisted Suicide

Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:41 pm to
I haven't researched data directly, but Taras Grescoe wrote about it extensively in his book, The Devil's Picnic, and I believe his account to be factual.

Thanks for the info on water, by the way. As silly as it sounds, effectiveness of the procedure is something that should be considered.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 1:42 pm
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24697 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:45 pm to
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pentobarbital sodium


I thought that was truth serum.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:49 pm to
There are a bunch of similar substances which are truth serums. But this is a very high dose we are talking about. Lower doses are used for different reasons.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51253 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:49 pm to
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Was coming to recommend How to Die in Oregon. That documentary will hit you right in the feels. The decision to go through with assisted suicide is tough and not made on a whim. These people are in excruciating pain and have little hope for a full recovery. They should be allowed to choice their own end and go out with dignity. Period. End of discussion.


It is also a pretty serious process to go through. You can't just wake up one day, even terminally ill, and decide to do it. It takes time and many evaluations to get it done. I was impressed with the regulations involved.

It will take time for it to be legalized nationwide. Massachusetts voters defeated an assisted suicide bill in the 2012 election. That should tell you that it has a long ways to go.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:54 pm to
Right. That's actually part of the appeal. When you're alone in your room with the barrel of a loaded shotgun in your mouth, there's no one there to tell you there are other options.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:29 pm to
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After seeing my father in law who was a doctor struggle with dementia and act as a zombie the last year of his life, I fully support assisted suicide for the terminally ill when they reach a state of unrelenting pain or inability to live in a functioning way (e.g. unable to eat, unable to communicate). Mental health or depression is different to me. To me those can be fixed. Things can change in life that would lift them out of depression. I would not support assisted suicide for those cases.

But I'd trade assisted suicide for the outlawing abortion. Would be interesting conundrum if a pregnant person wanted to commit suicide rather than deliver their child..


I am OK with letting states decide that assisted suicide is legal. To me it makes sense.

However, I am VERY weary of it in cases of dementia. How do you really know they want to die?
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7758 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:34 pm to
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However, I am VERY weary of it in cases of dementia. How do you really know they want to die?


This is why everyone should have a written will. In addition, make it well known to your spouse and close relatives of your wishes in case you become incapacitated. It's not a fun subject to think about and discuss but it's important.

I have made it very clear to my family that I do not want to be a vegetable and to put a DNR on me if I end up in that situation.

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