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re: Let's talk about corporate donations to PAC's, campaigns, and any political org.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 5:19 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 1/24/17 at 5:19 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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there is the issue of taxation without representation.
do you think companies should be allowed to vote, too?
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 5:19 pm to Masterag
Just making sure I'm clear, that excludes non-profits, unions, etc as well?
Posted on 1/24/17 at 5:19 pm to Masterag
Socially Democrat
Fiscally whatever isn't stupid
SPAC/PAC Corporate contributions all of em need to go. The United States of America should not be beholden to any thing/person/groups: ideology, views, or influences outside of its citizens wishes, as implemented by free democratic vote.
Fiscally whatever isn't stupid
SPAC/PAC Corporate contributions all of em need to go. The United States of America should not be beholden to any thing/person/groups: ideology, views, or influences outside of its citizens wishes, as implemented by free democratic vote.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 5:21 pm to texashorn
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I also find it odd that you are socially liberal on everything but health insurance
i am liberal when it comes to health insurance. i believe there should be a single payer system.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 5:22 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Just making sure I'm clear, that excludes non-profits, unions, etc as well?
correct
Posted on 1/24/17 at 5:30 pm to Masterag
You failed to address the point that direct corporate donations to political campaigns are already illegal.
The problem is that the body that upholds it, the Federal Election Commission, has a six-member board that has three members from each party and therefore is totally gridlocked.
In other words, it was a political reform that was built to fail.
FEC commissioners
The problem is that the body that upholds it, the Federal Election Commission, has a six-member board that has three members from each party and therefore is totally gridlocked.
In other words, it was a political reform that was built to fail.
FEC commissioners
Posted on 1/24/17 at 5:30 pm to Masterag
Citizens United was one of the most convoluted, non-sensical, Supreme Court opinions ever.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 6:09 pm to texashorn
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You failed to address the point that direct corporate donations to political campaigns are already illegal.
No i didn't. I believe abolishing superpacs and lobbying takes care of all that.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 6:12 pm to texashorn
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In other words, it was a political reform that was built to fail.
Yes, it was engineered by Nixon and Powell
Posted on 1/25/17 at 8:42 am to Masterag
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do you think companies should be allowed to vote, too?
No.
A corporation is formed by charter issued by the state. In the past these charters stated the goals of the corporations (building bridges, roads, etc...), currently the state accepts increasing shareholder value as the sole outcome of the charter. Perhaps this is where we could change the nature of corporations.
For the record, I don't see corporations as persons.
People are persons, speech is speech, and money is money IMO.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 8:51 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Money in and of itself is not speech. It is the use of said money as a form of expressing one's views and opinions that makes it speech. It is a tool for providing speech.
Buying legislators with money isn't speech, it's graft.
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if speaking is speech
It's not necessarily:
Speech
2.b. a usually public discourse
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