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re: Lerner referred R Senator for audit because of an invitation
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:35 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:35 pm to ShortyRob
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Oh. Decatur is corrupt to the core. Is that even in doubt? There is literally nothing Decatur wouldn't support if it meant eliminating conservatives from politics.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:36 pm to Godfather1
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The Saul Goodman of the PoliBoard.
I kinda want to take this as a compliment
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:36 pm to Vegas Bengal
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So it's your belief that if an IRS agent comes across something she believes may be illegal, if it involves a politician, she should say nothing?
The belief based on OVERWHELMING evidence(and disappearance of evidence) is that the bitch did this only, or at least primarily in one direction.
By itself, the email is completely non-informative. Given the totality of the last several months, it's just another one of those "hmm" moments.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:37 pm to Decatur
I love Saul.
I wouldn't ever hire him.
I wouldn't ever hire him.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:37 pm to Decatur
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Oh. Decatur is corrupt to the core. Is that even in doubt? There is literally nothing Decatur wouldn't support if it meant eliminating conservatives from politics.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
You know it's true. Hell, I'll bet you can't even think of something you wouldn't support if the net result was the elimination of conservatives in American politics.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:37 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:Please use English.
1. When didn't refer him for an exam.
quote:When a well-connected, high official of the IRS asks a question like that, it's not a question. It's a recommendation. If you can't understand that, you're corrupt as much as Lerner is.
She asked whether the other agent thought they should.
quote:"Don't think I want to be onstage with Grassley on this issue."-L. Lerner, first email, last sentence.
Where in the back and forth is there any indication of politics?
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:37 pm to Vegas Bengal
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an IRS agent comes across something she believes may be illegal,
it wasnt illegal. it wasnt even close.
it involved his frickING WIFE.
So your defense is that this woman who heads up the IRS is so incompetent she doesnt even understand when people should be audited?
good god.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:38 pm to Rex
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deliberately misleading title.
You ceased amazing me long ago.
May I point out that you are the king of the misleading title??
OR - have you reformed recently?
irony upon irony
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:42 pm to Rex
Hey dummy
They knew they couldn't get away with in house emails because that would take them killing almost every hard drive at the D.C. IRS, hence they concentrated on getting rid of emails that went out to her and Flux's co-conspiritors at the white house and on Capitol Hill.
DUH.
They knew they couldn't get away with in house emails because that would take them killing almost every hard drive at the D.C. IRS, hence they concentrated on getting rid of emails that went out to her and Flux's co-conspiritors at the white house and on Capitol Hill.
DUH.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:43 pm to CptBengal
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So your defense is that this woman who heads up the IRS is so incompetent she doesnt even understand when people should be audited?
My understanding is that they offered airfare for the wife.
It's reportable income, which is not illegal if it's reported on their taxes... if they accepted the airfare. It still would have been something that would have had to wait until NEXT year's taxes.
If you're being charitable to Lerner, AT BEST she's jumping the gun on an audit by a year because Grassley has yet to receive the reportable income in question.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:47 pm to Pettifogger
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It may not even show illegality. But it shows a crazy liberal was heading up an entity that was persecuting conservative groups, and she was so insane that when she accidentally received a social invite to a GOP senator, she immediately suggested they try and audit him. Moreover, her subordinate has to spell out for her why she's a moron for suggesting it.
If that email is an indication that she's "crazy", "insane" and a "moron" I'd recommend you look at a mirror because I don't see how the IRS giving greater scrutiny for tax exempt status to groups who are clearly political and are not eligible is an example of "persecution".
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:49 pm to ChineseBandit58
So, a google search by Rex or VB would have showed that Matthew Giuliano, the person Lois was emailing with, was a lower level resource.
A question coming from a senior official to a junior official in most large organizations is a more of a command, not a suggestion.
A question coming from a senior official to a junior official in most large organizations is a more of a command, not a suggestion.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:49 pm to teke184
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If you're being charitable to Lerner, AT BEST she's jumping the gun on an audit by a year because Grassley has yet to receive the reportable income in question.
Which is what the IRS attorney told her in response. She asked him a question. He answered. And the Righties are melting down over this.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:50 pm to Decatur
Decatur and Rex are setting the bar very low for ethical behavior when Republicans take over. Anything goes. Anything explained.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:50 pm to teke184
Lerner was in charge of the tax exempt organizations. She is going out of her way to nail Grassely for POSSIBLY not reporting income on his next year taxes. You cannot read the email string without coming to the conclusion Lerner was politically motivated.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:50 pm to Vegas Bengal
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If that email is an indication that she's "crazy", "insane" and a "moron" I'd recommend you look at a mirror because I don't see how the IRS giving greater scrutiny for tax exempt status to groups who are clearly political and are not eligible is an example of "persecution".
Because it was 100-1 toward conservative groups?
The lady headed a group that admitted to targeting conservative groups, refused to testify, and now claims that a huge swath of emails requested by CONGRESS was destroyed by happenstance.
If you think this is overblown, fine, but impropriety here has been admitted by the IRS, and now they're going to lengths to obstruct Congress from finding out how far it went.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:51 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Which is what the IRS attorney told her in response. She asked him a question. He answered. And the Righties are melting down over this.
Point is that the bitch was certainly being overzealous in her duties with regards to Republicans.
Anyone care to find an e-mail where she suggested auditing any of Dingy Harry's land deals?
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:52 pm to dante
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Lerner was in charge of the tax exempt organizations. She is going out of her way to nail Grassely for POSSIBLY not reporting income on his next year taxes. You cannot read the email string without coming to the conclusion Lerner was politically motivated.
I was trying to play Devil's Advocate in my statement.
That's clearly what it was but I was trying to find the most plausible spin that the idiot brigate could put on it, as opposed to flat-out lying their asses off.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:52 pm to Vegas Bengal
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So it's your belief that if an IRS agent comes across something she believes may be illegal, if it involves a politician, she should say nothing? Otherwise it's against the law?
Really?
You're looking at it in a vacuum.
We have an administration that claimed targeting was done but was only in a field office.
An investigation points toward (at least) Lois Lerner as being the source of targeting conservative groups.
She pleads the 5th and the IRS stonewalls attempts to get her emails.
One of the emails finally received shows her knee-jerk reaction to audit someone who is considered a conservative.
By itself this email would (at the least) buttress the belief that IRS employees are audit-happy. Taken in the context listed above it's more tinder placed in an area where there's already smoke.
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