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re: Kushner updated disclosure to add more than 100 foreign contacts: report
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:39 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:39 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
I would like to know how many disclosures he listed originally. If he initially listed 1000 than 100 additions are a lot more reasonable than an initial listing of 100.
I suppose that would be useful to know too but not to put too fine a point on it, that shite isn't supposed to be a PUBLICLY released form.
One of these days, Americans are going to figure out that a LOT of very solid people avoid government like the plague because of what it entails.
I mean, if you're a truly talented individual.......the type of person who could lead a massive multi national company, why in the frick would you get near government in an official capacity?
I'm convinced that to do so, you must hate your family.
There are tremendously talented people in America making a few million a year that not a soul would recognize in the mall........and when their children party at spring break, it's not national news.
This is a problem. A REAL problem in how we handle politics. And, it ain't going away any time soon.
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:39 pm to asurob1
quote:Faptastic post.
Meanwhile the clock is ticking for the next Trump advisor/colleague/relative to admit that he/she also met with Russian officials regarding the election.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:40 pm to asurob1
quote:
Asurob
lol at you melting
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:41 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
that's not a rational apriori assumption considering what we do know.
it is irrational to expect rational from a Trump supporter right now... hell, half of this thread is stupid attempt after stupid attempt to throw the word "xenophobe" in their response to the OP....
FWIW, i fully thought the Russian collusion shite was a big nothing, and even went on record with my posts to say so.... but i'm not so sure anymore... there's a reason Jr. has lied so much to conceal this meeting... there's a reason he didn't call the FBI, even after the meeting (assuming his story of it was a waste of time is true), and there's a reason why he would try to act pious all of a sudden and give this incriminating information....
and as far as the "100 being a lot", for Kushner, i don't think it would be... he was in real estate in one of the busiest markets in the world in NY... one that new Russian oil money sees as status symbolesque... him coming in contact with various Russians isn't beyond the scope of reality....
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:43 pm to chRxis
quote:Because the politics of getting dirt is basically ALWAYS lied about. I mean, you know this, right?
there's a reason Jr. has lied so much to conceal this meeting
quote:Because it wasn't illegal. It would be like calling the cops because you're neighbor is watering their lawn.
there's a reason he didn't call the FBI
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:50 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
I suppose that would be useful to know too but not to put too fine a point on it, that shite isn't supposed to be a PUBLICLY released form.
One of these days, Americans are going to figure out that a LOT of very solid people avoid government like the plague because of what it entails.
I mean, if you're a truly talented individual.......the type of person who could lead a massive multi national company, why in the frick would you get near government in an official capacity?
I'm convinced that to do so, you must hate your family.
There are tremendously talented people in America making a few million a year that not a soul would recognize in the mall........and when their children party at spring break, it's not national news.
This is a problem. A REAL problem in how we handle politics. And, it ain't going away any time soon.
Well, I actually think money is a bigger issue than this type of BS. You sorta expect it. But the max salary thing is a much bigger deal.
You can't find decent IT talent for under $150k these days.
I had a new college hire working for me, he was getting paid $90k. He quit to go to a different place to get $120k. And he has no coding skills. Just project mgmt.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:51 pm to MrLarson
quote:
I thought they claimed to have the emails. How'd they get those?
What department/agency of government do they report the information to, that is, the meeting of foreign nationals?
I would imagine that agency acquired the emails.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:56 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
Well, I actually think money is a bigger issue than this type of BS. You sorta expect it. But the max salary thing is a much bigger deal. You can't find decent IT talent for under $150k these days.
Absolutely related.
Imagine listing a job in the want ads.
Requirements
Ability to brief at the highest levels of govt
Decent understanding of legalese
Ability to understand trillion dollar budgets
etc
etc
etc
etc.
Other Job requirements:
When your 19 year old Daughter gets a DUI, it will be national news.
If your screws around on you......same
Oh, you called someone the N word 30 years ago in college? Yeah. That's coming out.
Your spouse got a DUI 25 years ago? Yeah. coming out.
What Salary might you expect to see attached to that job listing?
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:57 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Because it wasn't illegal. It would be like calling the cops because you're neighbor is watering their lawn.
taking the meeting isn't.... using whatever information they give you, if it's from an outside nation, is... again, there's a reason he's lied about not meeting with Russians, and then lo and behold, it's proven, beyond anyone's doubt that he in fact met with Russians, during the campaign, about seeking dirt on the opponent...
and keep in mind, this is just the tip of the spear, so to speak... no one, not you nor I, knows what else is possible to drop... hell, neither one of us woke the morning that this came out thinking there would be this huge story with verifiable information about the Trump campaign, that was gonna be broke that day...
keep in mind, i'm not like some here saying "SEE, THERE'S THE PROOF!!!!", but as much as i dismissed the notion of Russians and collusion, with what came out the other day, it's kinda hard to just dismiss it anymore, realistically speaking.... bury your head in the sand all you may want too, but when shite like this comes to light, it's making it harder and harder to seem like a "non-story"....
Posted on 7/13/17 at 2:58 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:Common sense dictates that the NYT got it's info from a leaker from whatever IC agency processes this document (FBI, maybe)...
The update reportedly includes the meeting we heard about, and this is probably how the times got notice of the meeting.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:00 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Other Job requirements:
When your 19 year old Daughter gets a DUI, it will be national news.
If your screws around on you......same
Oh, you called someone the N word 30 years ago in college? Yeah. That's coming out.
Your spouse got a DUI 25 years ago? Yeah. coming out.
What Salary might you expect to see attached to that job listing?
no one in politics doesn't think that, or at least they shouldn't, their past won't be used as ammo against them... they know that GOING INTO it... hell, they all depend on it to use against their opposition....
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:00 pm to Knight of Old
quote:
Common sense dictates that the NYT got it's info from a leaker from whatever IC agency processes this document (FBI, maybe)...
That agency wouldn't have had the actual email from the meeting. I'm guessing someone used the disclosure form to go back and dig through the IC's archives of all email to get the email.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:01 pm to Knight of Old
quote:
Common sense dictates that the NYT got it's info from a leaker from whatever IC agency processes this document (FBI, maybe)...
The information was passed to congress as part of the investigation. Langford indicated he knew of the meeting but not the email.
While it is completely possible the IC leaked it, I think congress is way more likely suspect in any leak.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:02 pm to chRxis
quote:As long as it doesn't come from a Russian lawyer.
hell, they all depend on it to use against their opposition....
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:03 pm to chRxis
quote:No. It isn't.
taking the meeting isn't.... using whatever information they give you, if it's from an outside nation, is... again,
I mean, you guys can claim it a lot. But, claiming it doesn't make it remotely true.
quote:Ya think? LOL. Of course there's a reason. Because everyone is running around yelling "Muh Russians"........AND..........go ahead. Tell me about the last time a politician OPENLY admitted how they got dirt on an opponent. I'll help.
again, there's a reason he's lied about not meeting with Russians,
NEVER
quote:Actually. I do.
and keep in mind, this is just the tip of the spear, so to speak... no one, not you nor I, knows what else is possible to drop...
I know that Obama and the IC were looking at this since last summer.
So, either Obama was in on it..........or Trump brilliantly eluded the greatest IC ever designed by modern man...............from June - January!!
Yeah. That didn't happen.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:03 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Other Job requirements:
When your 19 year old Daughter gets a DUI, it will be national news.
If your screws around on you......same
Oh, you called someone the N word 30 years ago in college? Yeah. That's coming out.
Your spouse got a DUI 25 years ago? Yeah. coming out.
This is also all true with private business, especially at executive levels.
Salary is a bigger issue IMHO, certainly teh reason I don't work in gov't.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:04 pm to chRxis
quote:
no one in politics doesn't think that, or at least they shouldn't, their past won't be used as ammo against them... they know that GOING INTO it... hell, they all depend on it to use against their opposition....
That was my point.
Are you actually reading?
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:04 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:
This is also all true with private business, especially at executive levels.
No, it isn't.
It's slightly more true at public companies.
But even most CEOs affairs aren't bandied about until there's a court hearing or a settlement.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:05 pm to chRxis
quote:
and keep in mind, this is just the tip of the spear, so to speak... no one, not you nor I, knows what else is possible to drop.
more stuff is going to drop. This is just the beginning IMHO.
quote:
bury your head in the sand all you may want too, but when shite like this comes to light, it's making it harder and harder to seem like a "non-story"....
true trumpkins will go down with the ship. They don't care. THey are in love with trump.
Posted on 7/13/17 at 3:06 pm to the808bass
quote:
But even most CEOs affairs aren't bandied about until there's a court hearing or a settlement.
I would imagine most gov't affairs are completely ignored.
oh, and
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