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JBE administration plans to cut way back mental health services to at-risk kids-UPDATE

Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:18 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:18 pm
But senators are pushing back.
Update. It worked. They ended up keeping the program

Whoever thought it was a good idea to shut down a major behavioral health program for kids has lost their mind. How about some cuts to administration for a change?

quote:

Louisiana's state senators may derail plans by Gov. John Bel Edwards' administration to eliminate a Medicaid program that provides behavioral health services to thousands of children.

The Edwards administration intends to shutter the program on April 1, to save the state more than $2 million this year. Program elimination is part of the Department of Health's response to cuts levied by lawmakers in last month's special session to close a budget deficit.
"We need a full hearing to understand why this program needs to be totally terminated on April 1," Mills said. "As of now, as of everything I've learned, it just does not make sense to totally shut the program down."

The program provides what are called "psychosocial rehabilitation services" for people under the age of 21, services aimed at helping children with behavioral health and emotional problems to remain in their homes and function in school.

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This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:19 pm to
Dems know to cut muscle as opposed to fat
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:20 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69304 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:21 pm to
perhaps he has been briefed by experts that the benefits are not worth the costs.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36046 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:23 pm to
Yet we provided 180 M dollars to cover film tax credits!!!
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:23 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

perhaps he has been briefed by experts that the benefits are not worth the costs.

Experts? I hope you jest.
He's only interested in short term money to balance the budget. He is short sighted on the long term cost of cutting a major mental health program.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53003 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:24 pm to
At risk kids become future Dem votes
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23050 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:42 pm to
I'm sure the program is a total joke. Most of these things are. $$$ eaten up by admin costs and very little to show for it.

These little set asides usually exist to employ politicians family members. I guess this one didn't have the right people working there.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71104 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

He's only interested in short term money to balance the budget.


That's because he's really....(pulls mask off) Bobby Jindal!

"I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids!"
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34151 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:45 pm to
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and function in school


While I totally support people in need of mental health assistance actually having those needs met, I take issue with this statement. It has been my experience that these young people are routinely dumped in schools so as to give them some semblance of normalcy. The problem is that many of these students have violent tendencies. If our young people need help, give it to them, but don't endanger the general population.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:49 pm to
Isn't at-risk kids another way of saying kids that were brought into this world by people that never had any intentions of raising them so now the kids are wrecks?

Tell me Tangerine, as a person that busts his arse to provide for my kids, how much of my money that I use to provide for my kids should be taken away from me to provide for the needs of the kids who have horrible parents that are unwilling or unable to meet their needs?
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:52 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:52 pm to
"at risk" kids are the ones liberals refuse to control with normal discipline so they get to ruin the educational experience of everyone else they come into contact with.

Throw some more money at them - been getting a lot of it but the numbers of them don't seem to be decreasing
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:55 pm to
Did you not get the memo that people that work hard have an assfull of getting bled dry by leaches that want other people to pay for their bullshite?
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:05 pm to
Scoop

I have a sister that receives services and I agree it doesn't seem fair. But these kids need help, especially an environment outside the parents home in many cases. I couldn't bathe my sister (40yrs old) 3 times a day and work my job. I felt horrible but we were worn out trying to take care of her. I lost my mom and I want you guys to know that I thank god for these programs where the state pitches in.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

How about some cuts to administration for a change?





Jay Dardenne cut the salaries of everybody on his staff and called it leading by example while quietly letting JBE fatten up his own paycheck and pension on the side.

They don't give a shite.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 5:34 am to
quote:

Isn't at-risk kids another way of saying kids that were brought into this world by people that never had any intentions of raising them so now the kids are wrecks?

Medicaid is for the poor and or disabled.
quote:

Tell me Tangerine, as a person that busts his arse to provide for my kids, how much of my money that I use to provide for my kids should be taken away from me to provide for the needs of the kids who have horrible parents that are unwilling or unable to meet their needs?

Being a horrible parent is not a criteria for Medicaid . There have been programs that provide for the health of the poor for quite a long time. As far as how much of your money, that is debatable.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 6:21 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 5:47 am to
quote:

I'm sure the program is a total joke. Most of these things are. $$$ eaten up by admin costs and very little to show for it. These little set asides usually exist to employ politicians family members. I guess this one didn't have the right people working there.

Not true in the case of psychosocial rehabilitation programs. They employ therapist and counselors who go out into the homes in schools. They are certainly not family members of politicians. They don't get paid well at all . They also employ psychiatrists or other prescribers.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 6:16 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:14 pm to
Update. They kept the program today.
Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

But senators are pushing back.
Update. It worked. They ended up keeping the program

Whoever thought it was a good idea to shut down a major behavioral health program for kids has lost their mind. How about some cuts to administration for a change?


This shouldn't be on JBE. The problem is a lot of these home health services(counselors going to children's homes for sessions) were over billing Medicaid for hours. As a result of the fraud, the state responded by trying to cut the program.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23050 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Not true in the case of psychosocial rehabilitation programs.


bullshite. I'll bet the program is overbilled at least 100%.

There is no accountability.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

perhaps he has been briefed by experts that the benefits are not worth the costs.





Naw, you can't do a cba if it is for the CHILDREN!

even if you spends thousands per kid annually with shitty results, like public education for example

The answer is always, "This program is not getting the results we expected so we must spend more money!"
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