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It's a Yankee Problem: Right-Wing Terrorism is not an Issue in the South
Posted on 8/13/17 at 11:23 am
Posted on 8/13/17 at 11:23 am
It's a common claim nowadays to state that right-wing terrorism is more of a problem than Islamic terrorism in the United States. While the death toll of Muslim-led terrorism is higher than right wing (94 vs. 50), there have been more incidences of right-wing terrorism than left wing or Jihadi. The US Gov claims that 73% of all domestic terrorism incidences come from right-wing groups/people.
There have been 22 incidences of right-wing terrorism in the United States since 2001. Of those....
3 have occurred in the South. One of those I'm skeptical of being right-wing oriented (St. John the Baptist Parish police ambush in 2011), but I think you all could speak more to it.
Dylann Roof is probably the worst of the group and he committed his act of terror in the South. And there was a shooting in Knoxville back in 2008.
The rest have been outside of the South. You would think with the way most of the country points their finger at the South as being hardcore, bigoted racists with the potential for extremism and violence that there would actually be a shred of evidence to prove it. But there's not.
Not really making any claims of causation here, but I thought it was interesting to see the lack of correlation between right-wing terrorism and what is typically seen as the haven of right-wing extremism.
There have been 22 incidences of right-wing terrorism in the United States since 2001. Of those....
3 have occurred in the South. One of those I'm skeptical of being right-wing oriented (St. John the Baptist Parish police ambush in 2011), but I think you all could speak more to it.
Dylann Roof is probably the worst of the group and he committed his act of terror in the South. And there was a shooting in Knoxville back in 2008.
The rest have been outside of the South. You would think with the way most of the country points their finger at the South as being hardcore, bigoted racists with the potential for extremism and violence that there would actually be a shred of evidence to prove it. But there's not.
Not really making any claims of causation here, but I thought it was interesting to see the lack of correlation between right-wing terrorism and what is typically seen as the haven of right-wing extremism.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 11:25 am
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:06 pm to StringedInstruments
I've always maintained the north is far more racist than the south. The ugly truth is that in the north the cities are so segregated that I've met folks from Chicago that had never seen a black person IRL until college. Meanwhile in the south youre constantly exposed to other races in school and playing sports. In the south you basically have the choice of being racist and withdrawing from a lot of normal activities or you get over it and treat people as people regardless of their skin color.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:07 pm to StringedInstruments
Is there a reason you aren't counting 9/11 in your numbers?
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:07 pm to StringedInstruments
It's true. Nobody rioted here when they took our statues.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:08 pm to StringedInstruments
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Dylann Roof is probably the worst of the group and he committed his act of terror in the South.
Uhh, this was kind of a big deal
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:23 pm to el Gaucho
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Is there a reason you aren't counting 9/11 in your numbers?
Just using Wikipedia which goes back to 9/11 as a starting point for a discussion on modern day terrorism.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:25 pm to StringedInstruments
Christ y'all are REALLY trying to pin this on anyone and everyone outside of who it actually was lol
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:25 pm to Sevendust912
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Uhh, this was kind of a big deal
Of course it was and I wasn't denying that. I just thought it was surprising that most of these right-wing acts of terror are occurring outside of the South. Yet public perception is that the Deep South is the most backwards, racist, bigoted group of right-wing supporters in the country.
If anything, Roof's attack was an outlier when ~86% of right-wing terrorism happens outside of the South.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:26 pm to BamaChemE
quote:
ve always maintained the north is far more racist than the south.
Just lol
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:27 pm to olddawg26
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Christ y'all are REALLY trying to pin this on anyone and everyone outside of who it actually was lol
You do realize I voted for Hillary and am not a fan of Trump, right? I try to respect most posters here, but you olddawg26 seem to be a Grade A moron with most of your posts.
He was ACTUALLY a guy from Ohio. And not the South, which is the main point of the OP.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:32 pm to BamaChemE
"I've met folks from Chicago that had never seen a black person IRL until college"
no you haven't
no you haven't
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 8/13/17 at 1:50 pm to rocket31
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ve always maintained the north is far more racist than the south. Just lol
I take it you've never been to Boston, Pittsburgh, Cleveland...etc.....
Posted on 8/13/17 at 2:52 pm to wookalar1013
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no you haven't
That has been claimed by at least four different Chicagoans that I've been friends with. All of them were from the north side and went to private schools. I've met plenty others from Chicago that have different stories.
I grew up in the south, but married a girl from Cincinnati and was blown away by how insular different areas were. In addition, working in academia has afforded me opportunities to travel all over the country and the world. I'm convinced that most of the white guilt and apologetics are because the white people in the major metropolitan cities interact so little with other races that they fail to see we're all just people.
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