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re: It takes Trey Gowdy just three minutes to silence the media

Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62496 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:47 pm to
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the fault of the CIA mistakingly believing media outlets


I don't buy that from testimony. Now, the White House guys will probably try that argument, but intel is pretty sure it was a pre-planned terror attack. The video may have pissed them off a few hours before they went in, but people forget this was 911, and they used precision mortar attacks, and some serious hardware, and they knew our fall back and defensive positions. This wasn't some ginned up operation by guys that got pissed off from a video, and the skill to land those mortars on our guys, takes some serious training. I doubt they stick to the video excuse at the hearings, but we will see...
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:02 pm to
I dont get how anyone cant see that on the anniversary of 9/11 the Benghazi attack was carried out as a planned event, way before the events in Cairo. It was 9/11 for Petes sake

And since Obama was giving them the cover of the video, the attackers ran with it

Which brings us back to the problem. Obama et al, used the video to cover up their ineptitude, and people like Rex bought into it

Gowdy will now, finally, get the opportunity to open some eyes. Thankfully, in time for the next elections. Which of course is reasonable, since the video story was used to hijack the previous election
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:11 pm to
dis gon b gud
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:25 pm to
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I dont get how anyone cant see that on the anniversary of 9/11



A perfect storm;

- 9/11 in a lawless, weapons-saturated city in a Sunni Muslim country

- the release of an anti-American video on 9/10, calling for American blood

- Chris Stevens in town for the first time as American Ambassador

- election of Prime Minister scheduled for the following day, with jihadists and the Muslim Brotherhood having a vested interest in the outcome

Any one of those first three situations could have been reason enough to expect something might be in the works, combined with the knowledge that such an attack could effect the outcome of the last one, and it apparently did, as the overwhelming favorite lost.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48636 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:45 pm to
Ok. So did the video play a role? Yes or no?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62496 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:50 pm to
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So did the video play a role? Yes or no?



Not in Benghazi. Looks like the terrorist had everything planned to well, to have something that spontaneous affect them.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10454 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:27 am to
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Ooooo..... Gowdy Doody Pinhead has much bravado.


Nice response.

Now, do you know the answer to any of his questions?

That's right, you do not care because it may, just may reflect poorly on your libtard party.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10454 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:28 am to
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Actually, I think he reached a new low there. A gutter low, to be honest, when he starts by insinuating that the Obama Administration is not interested in bringing the murderers to justice.


Be clear Rex, he did not insinuate, he stated. Obama does not want to be brought to justice over this.
Posted by Stringer Bell
The Towers
Member since May 2014
658 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:07 am to
pathetic
Posted by 2close2Gainesville
Huge
Member since Sep 2008
4795 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:17 am to
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Gowdy Doody Pinhead


Such brilliance. You should be proud.
Posted by Matrixman
Texas
Member since Apr 2010
719 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 8:14 am to
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just three minutes to silence the media


There is hope! I like this guy. Can't wait to see him grill Hillary. There is some serious cover up going on over Benghazi

I read somewhere the Ambassador was there to negoiate the purchase of shoulder fired 'Stinger' type weapons the administration supplied to Libyan rebels. Apparently the administration screwed up and those weapons found their way into the hands of Al Qaeda operatives. So now the administration is in 'panic mode' as the fear those weapons may find their way across our unprotected southern border. May explain why the NSA is monitoring everything....every email....phone call....everything. [Hello Mr. NSA screener...how's your day going?]

Poor guys, my theory is the administration had to keep a lid on this thing, so they sought to smother the crisis, and bascially sacrificed those men. I bet there was a lot of phone calls and meetings involving WH and News outlets. Susan Rice was picked to 'sing' the official administration story. I wonder, is the poor guy accused of making that film still in jail? Maybe now we'll finally find out the truth.

What a mess!
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 8:32 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 8:17 am to
i've never heard of a protest setting up attack positions and using rpg's, grenades, and mortars....but hey, i'm only 39 years old so who knows.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 8:57 am to
Even if you believe the administration in their claims that:
(1) this was, at least in part, a spontaneous response to a video, and that
(2) once the attack began, they could not respond in time...

It still does not explain why...
(1) the request for more security were not granted;
(2) why the FBI did not show up to the site of the attack for two weeks;
(3) why the administration to this day has not produced for questioning many of the actual witnesses to the event.


I think that John Brennan, through the CIA, was essentially overseeing a gun-running operation wherein they were "re-acquiring" weapons given to Libyan rebels (some of which were Al Qaeda linked) to disburse in Syria to Syrian rebels.

The State Department and CIA got caught with their pants down.

This caused the WH to go into scramble mode in view of the election under two months away.

The fact of the matter is that the President, and likely his advisors, did not realize the magnitude of what was taking place and did not pay appropriate attention to the matter as it was unfolding - instead conserving energy and focus for the campaign trail and the big Vegas fundraiser on the horizon.

I think that the WH has been in full spin mode on this topic since then.

The reality of the whole deal is even if the WH came clean on everything, nothing would happen.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 4:15 am to
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It still does not explain why... (1) the request for more security were not granted; (2) why the FBI did not show up to the site of the attack for two weeks; (3) why the administration to this day has not produced for questioning many of the actual witnesses to the event.


Your questions have been answered repeatedly. Here we go again:

1. Read pages 16 and 17
LINK
2. Read here: LINK
3. They have been produced and questioned. Read the bottom of page 2 of the first link.

If you want answers to your questions, a simple reading of the many reports from the many committees will relieve you of your curiosity.

As for Gowdy and his silencing the media, a simple google search will show you that he did nothing of the sort. In fact there are a number of pieces showing that Gowdy and you are wrong. The questions posed by Gowdy have been asked and answered.

Don't believe me? Then you'd have to believe that republicans on 7 committees, including Gowdy, were so incompetent that they failed to ask the questions Gowdy now wants to ask. They want an 8th bite of the apple.


This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 4:25 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124174 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 4:35 am to
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Don't believe me? Then you'd have to believe that republicans on 7 committees, including Gowdy, were so incompetent that they failed to ask the questions Gowdy now wants to ask. They want an 8th bite of the apple.
Or there are legal loopholes the ExecutiveBranch has successfully used to obstruct Congressional efforts, at least so far. e.g., preventing testimony of the Consulate Survivors.

But there's also no question the Committees suffered from incompetence.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58173 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 4:39 am to
quote:

Ooooo..... Gowdy Doody Pinhead has much bravado.


Is a pinhead anything like a dog head Rex?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124174 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 4:44 am to
quote:

It still does not explain why...
(1) the request for more security were not granted;
(2) why the FBI did not show up to the site of the attack for two weeks;
(3) why the administration to this day has not produced for questioning many of the actual witnesses to the event.
e.g., Why did the FBI spend more time in Scott Broadwell's house doing sex investigation, then it spent on the ground in Benghazi?

But ultimately the importance of Benghazi will rise or fall solely on the issue of cover-up. If a cover-up is established, the ugliness of the incident will be magnified. It will gain importance in terms of public interest. If not, there will be limited public interest.

No cover-up = No interest.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 7:51 am to
Perhaps you should read pages 16 and 17. It does not state why the security requests were not answered.

Perhaps you could quote the exact section in that report that you believe answers the questions.
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 7:53 am
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:17 am to
From VB's Link:

quote:

Security fears had kept the F.B.I. agents from traveling the 400 miles from the American Embassy in Tripoli, the Libyan capital, to collect evidence at a crime scene that was trampled, looted and badly burned by militants more than three weeks ago.


I wonder if those are the same type security fears that prompted Ambassador Stevens to repeatedly request more security protection, which was ignored by this administration?
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