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Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:57 pm to trackfan
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You are a blight on the face of humanity.
Jihad is a blight on the face of humanity. Wishing the end of jihadis is not.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 12:58 pm to the808bass
quote:My continued postings to this board should be all the proof anyone would need.
You're not really smart.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:03 pm to Hawkeye95
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actually they haven't. It wasn't until zionism that this shite started, and even then not until the UN recognized isreal as a state. that was in the 40s fwiw
Congratulations on the most myopic historical perspective on this board today.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:05 pm to the808bass
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I condemn the sentiments in the Israeli video.
Ok, you should stop there but you can't help yourself and you make a false comparison to again somehow excuse Israel:
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I also recognize a difference between singing a song, however off putting it may be, and lobbing explosives purposefully and exclusively at civilian populations.
You're comparing apples to oranges. You do realize the song is celebrating actual attacks by the Israelis that resulted in civilian deaths...compare that to the rocket shots.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:07 pm to the808bass
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You are a blight on the face of humanity.
Jihad is a blight on the face of humanity. Wishing the end of jihadis is not.
He referred to him as a blight because in his post he considers the dead children future terrorists. It makes it easier for him and likely you to condone killing children.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:11 pm to the808bass
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If you voted for Hamas you deserve to be killed according to this guy.
However
If you voted for Hamas you deserve to be killed according to this guy.
However
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The rabbi did not make it clear how he would sort out Palestinians who voted for Hamas. In the last election in Palestine, in 2006, Hamas — the “terrorist organization” to which Kirshner was obviously referring– got 440,000 votes, 44 percent of the electorate, according to Wikipedia. Fatah won 410,000, the PFLP 42,000.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:11 pm to the808bass
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Congratulations on the most myopic historical perspective on this board today.
there were very few jews in that area prior to zionism, at least in modern history is the scale of conflict huge.
There is a long history of violence in the region.
But the history of violence in the region between jews and muslims is rather brief. Certainly not for "centuries"
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:12 pm to cwill
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Ok, you should stop there but you can't help yourself and you make a false comparison to again somehow excuse Israel:
It's not a false comparison. It's part of the context. Why is it that liberals claim to see nuance until they read their ideological opponent's statements?
You cannot remove the violence and vitriol directed towards Israel from this equation. I know you wish to, but it doesn't make sense to do so.
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You do realize
I left my statement ambiguous so as to cover both the jihadis and the Jews. Your presuppositions about your ideological opponents managed to read past that. Again.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:14 pm to Hawkeye95
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But the history of violence in the region between jews and muslims is rather brief. Certainly not for "centuries"
The history of violence against Jews by Muslims goes back to before the Middle Ages. If you'd like to pretend that parsing your statement with "in this region" somehow gives you an edge in the debate, then I'll say you're simply trying to obfuscate the issue.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:22 pm to the808bass
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The history of violence against Jews by Muslims goes back to before the Middle Ages.
err, islam wasn't a religion until the middle ages.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Gaza children should blame their parents on this, for being rabid terrorists.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:24 pm to the808bass
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It's not a false comparison. It's part of the context.
You stated in plain terms that you condemn the song BUT you distinguish it from violence by both Israelis and palestinians? WTF does that even mean? But it's not really what you said:
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I condemn the sentiments in the Israeli video. I also recognize a difference between singing a song, however off putting it may be, and lobbing explosives purposefully and exclusively at civilian populations.
You're clearly distinguishing the Israelis singing a song from Hamas firing missiles into Israel...you weren't ambiguous and you were making a false comparison to somehow excuse the Israelis as less bad.
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Why is it that liberals claim to see nuance until they read their ideological opponent's statements?
I don't know, you should ask a liberal. But anyone could see that there was no "nuance" in that statement.
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You cannot remove the violence and vitriol directed towards Israel from this equation. I know you wish to, but it doesn't make sense to do so.
You're imagining things or making things up about me to justify your absurd opinion.
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I left my statement ambiguous so as to cover both the jihadis and the Jews. Your presuppositions about your ideological opponents managed to read past that. Again.
I have no idea what your ideology is other than basic uninformed person and clearly you have no clue about me.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:25 pm to cwill
You're an idiot. Your rambling response at no point constituted a sentient thought.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:26 pm to Placebeaux
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:27 pm to Hawkeye95
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err, islam wasn't a religion until the middle ages.
You are correct. I was wrong on that point. Would you like to address the history of violence against Jews by Muslims at some point?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:30 pm to the808bass
It's really difficult to address stupidity for that I apologize. But I think I get what you were saying now:
"Israelis singing the song is bad but you gotta understand they've had rockets shot at them...I'm not excusing it, but I'm excusing it."
Meanwhile ignoring the fact that they're singing a song about Israelis bombing the ever living shite out of the Palestinians and actually killing significant numbers of civilians. My initial post was just pointing out how this would be the exact response by the Israeli-firsters like you. And if there was a video of Palestinians singing a similar song it would never be excused in the slightest...you'd never say - well you have to take into consideration that the Israelis have bulldozed their homes and killed scores of their children. Never.
"Israelis singing the song is bad but you gotta understand they've had rockets shot at them...I'm not excusing it, but I'm excusing it."
Meanwhile ignoring the fact that they're singing a song about Israelis bombing the ever living shite out of the Palestinians and actually killing significant numbers of civilians. My initial post was just pointing out how this would be the exact response by the Israeli-firsters like you. And if there was a video of Palestinians singing a similar song it would never be excused in the slightest...you'd never say - well you have to take into consideration that the Israelis have bulldozed their homes and killed scores of their children. Never.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:30 pm to the808bass
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Would you like to address the history of violence against Jews by Muslims at some point?
Muslims don't get along with anyone. so yes, they have a history of not getting along with the jews.
But the current conflict has everything to do with zionism and islamic nationalism, and very little to do with their shared history.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:32 pm to the808bass
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Would you like to address the history of violence against Jews by Muslims at some point?
How about the long history of them living in relative peace and coexisting until 1947?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:32 pm to TX Tiger
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There is literally no reason for us to be funding Israel
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IMO, $2 billion annually is the bribe money for them not to.
So you want the Joos to go rampaging throughout the ME?
I don't like our funding of Israel, they are perfectly capable of affording their own arms. But in light of our past 14 years of shite foreign policy in the region we have left ourselves with very few ties to Israel and even less influence on them. It doesn't help that we're basically paying Egypt to keep Gaza closed on their side.
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