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re: Israeli sniper kills young man looking for family in debris.

Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:31 pm to
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Now you're blaming all Palestinians?


Didn't they vote for Hamas to share power, TX? At what clip? They put their money on the wrong horse; terrorism don't pay!
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:31 pm to
Not sure what the issue is with the site provided in the OP, but here is another link to the video;

LINK

It never shows any of the wounds inflicted upon the civilian. Never. You hear gunfire and the camera turns away. Then he is laying on the ground, gunfire, camera turns away. Then again. No injuries are visible.

However, I cannot help but be moved when I see the destruction of the area. Devastating. Sad.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:32 pm to
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Yes, some Palestinians killed 3 teenagers which was responded with some Israelis killing a teenager which was responded with Hamas firing rockets into Israel, which was responded with Israel reigning terror down upon Palestinian churches, neighborhoods, schools, hospitals, et cetra.


Which epitomizes what can happen when you ignore the saying "don't start shite and there won't be no shite".
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 3:33 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:34 pm to
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Now you're blaming all Palestinians?





Without question.
Then who do you blame for funding this conflict? Without funding, they'd be throwing rocks at each other instead.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:35 pm to
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Wolfhound45


I posted that on the first page. Nobody seems to care that this video is bullshite and this thread is based on a lie. Most here, for some reason, want desperately to believe the Israelis are an evil people and the Palestinians are good and fighting for freedom. Neither of which is true.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:35 pm to
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Then who do you blame for funding this conflict? Without funding, they'd be throwing rocks at each other instead.


TX Tiger, unfortunately there is always money.

Always.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:37 pm to
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I posted that on the first page. Nobody seems to care that this video is bullshite and this thread is based on a lie. Most here, for some reason, want desperately to believe the Israelis are an evil people and the Palestinians are good and fighting for freedom. Neither of which is true.


They're two ethnic groups fighting over the same patch of desert. Good and evil doesn't enter into it.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:38 pm to
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They're two ethnic groups fighting over the same patch of desert. Good and evil doesn't enter into it.


I agree. There's simply two different sides. I guess people just like to root for the underdog or something.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:39 pm to
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GeauxxxTigers23


Yeah, I gotta throw a big at the OP. It never shows what he purported it to show.

If he was hit by 5.56 or 7.62 you would know it. Crack of the round, impact on flesh. Depending upon where he was wounded, he would cry out in tremendous pain. None of that.

But that neighborhood has been utterly destroyed.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:39 pm to
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Nobody seems to care that this video is bullshite and this thread is based on a lie.
Anymore than they care about the lie that started the latest conflict.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:39 pm to
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"Innocent civilian"? You gonna have trials to determine whose innocent and who ain't, PT?


I don't know if this particular "civilian" is "innocent" or if he was even "shot". I am not qualified to make those determinations in this scenario. If the "shooting" was investigated and it could be proven the supposed victim was an innocent, then I would support the soldier being punished appropriately for his actions.

As for trackfan pointing out that Israeli soldiers in similar circumstances have not been adequately punished, I have not yet looked at any links he may have provided and am not fully aware of the details of those cases. If the soldiers truly did kill a proven innocent in cold blood with no provocation, then I would agree that being let off with a slap on the wrist would be a travesty of justice.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:40 pm to
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Then who do you blame for funding this conflict? Without funding, they'd be throwing rocks at each other instead.




TX Tiger, unfortunately there is always money. Always.
Didn't answer my question.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:40 pm to
Actually one is a free democracy where women and minorities have full rights. I consider that "good"


The other is not. I consider that "bad"
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:40 pm to
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You can whine all you want, but Bibi says you don't matter. I think Hamas has stepped in it this time.


Israel has decided to stop stepping on the occasional cockroach and has called the Orkin man.

I hope they sweep the fricking place clean.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:40 pm to
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Actually one is a free democracy where women and minorities have full rights. I consider that "good"


The other is not. I consider that "bad"


Tru dat.

#TeamIsrael
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:41 pm to
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They're two ethnic groups fighting over the same patch of desert. Good and evil doesn't enter into it.
Probably the truest statement in this thread.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Didn't answer my question.


Uhm, yes it did. You are focused on one source of funding. The reality is that money is pouring in from every side. Disgusting. But don't kid yourself.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:43 pm to
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Actually one is a free democracy where women and minorities have full rights. I consider that "good"

You need to educate yourself on the 30+ laws in Israel that preference Jews over Gentiles.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:45 pm to
I'm aware of the laws set in place to maintain the Jewish state. To compare that to Hamas's regime or sharia law is so beyond the pale. Extremely disingenuous and you know it.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 3:47 pm to
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You need to educate yourself on the 30+ laws in Israel that preference Jews over Gentiles.


Speaking of laws, tell me... what is the law concerning selling land in Palestinian areas to non-Palestiniians?
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