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re: Israel/Palestine experts: How would you resolve conflict in Holy Land?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:58 am to mizzoukills
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:58 am to mizzoukills
not going to happen, there has been no peace in the Middle East since Biblical times, in fact the Bible says that there will be no peace in the ME till Jesus return.
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:59 am to dantes69
Nobody wins in the zombie apocalypse.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:02 am to PsychTiger
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I mean, once blacks in America were given the same rights as whites all hate from both sides instantly disappeared.
Let me be more precise in my language. Israeli Jews and Arabs don't need to love each other, they just need to not want to kill each other.
"It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me but it can keep him from lynching me and I think that is pretty important, also." - MLK
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:06 am to Ace Midnight
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And just coincidentally, Egypt had ALL of their planes fueled and armed for "exercises", right?
bullshite! If you believe that Israeli lie, you probably also believe that the attack on the USS Liberty was an accident.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:07 am to mizzoukills
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What is your solution to peace in the Holy Land?
I'd like to see a unified Israeli state (including Gaza and the west bank with all the inhabitants therein) with strict hate crime legislation.
That will obviously never happen, but wouldn't it be nice?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:16 am to trackfan
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just as the U.S. had a right to hold the Taliban responsible for aiding and abetting Al Qaeda after 9/11, Arabs/Muslims have a right to hold the U.S. responsible for Israel's actions against the Palestinians.
So, you support an Arab/Muslim war on the US?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:19 am to dantes69
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till Jesus return.
This might solve it. Wouldn't hold my breath though.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:21 am to trackfan
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bullshite!
No, true shite.
Even though Fawzi personally verified that the Soviet report of an imminent Israeli attack on Syria was false, and ignoring his other advisors, Nasser mobilized for war, anyway.
Play stupid arse games, win stupid arse prizes.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:24 am to mizzoukills
It will never haopen.
But if you want ti settle the issue, give all of Israel back to Israel and make the refugees which arw frim Egypt, Saudi Arabia Syria etc. go back to their homelands
But if you want ti settle the issue, give all of Israel back to Israel and make the refugees which arw frim Egypt, Saudi Arabia Syria etc. go back to their homelands
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:30 am to trackfan
Trackfan
Why do you hate the jews?
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If you believe that Israeli lie
Why do you hate the jews?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:31 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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But if you want ti settle the issue, give all of Israel back to Israel and make the refugees which arw frim Egypt, Saudi Arabia Syria etc. go back to their homelands
You are truly clueless not just crazy.
They would not be embraced going to any of those countries. Just b/c they share the same religion does not make them the same culture. They would not be accepted moving to those places. They are native to that land just as the Jews are.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:53 am to mizzoukills
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Surely you can enlighten us with an actual critical solution rather than post a juvenile retort like WWJD?
Seriously, what would Jesus do? I think he would want separate states and freedom for people to be an independent country instead of operating in a constant apartheid society.
1. Grant Palestine independence so that Fatah can deal with the Hamas minority on their own.
2. If Gaza and Palestine can't be an independent country, the best solution would be for jordan to annex the West Bank and Egypt to annex the Gaza Strip. These groups don't mix well but better than with Israelis. Jordan is a better country than Israel anyway.
3. Grant the West Bank independence, allow gazans to move there then let israel defeat Hamas in a full on war. occupy and eventually colonize the area.
4. Don't grant the West Bank independence but transport refugees to the West Bank that want to get out of Gaza and live in the more liberal fatah regime. Then fight a full on war with Hamas, colonize etc
5. Keep fighting until the crusaders force a ceasefire and continue the apartheid state. Keep flying drones over Palestine to surveil their activities, keep the walls up and don't let them out!
I'm sure the crusaders will disagree and pick it apart but just my opinion.
Eta: and of course stop giving israel money, weapons and technology. It's obviously a waste of money.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 11:13 am
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:54 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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make the refugees which arw frim Egypt, Saudi Arabia Syria etc. go back to their homelands
This is incorrect
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:58 am to TK421
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I'd like to see a unified Israeli state (including Gaza and the west bank with all the inhabitants therein) with strict hate crime legislation.
West Bank and Gaza aren't Israeli states. Why would you want them to stick together? What's the benefit of that?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:18 am to GRTiger
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So, you support an Arab/Muslim war on the US?
Is that a serious question?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:22 am to Burt Reynolds
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West Bank and Gaza aren't Israeli states.
I never said they were.
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Why would you want them to stick together? What's the benefit of that?
Are you serious? Is the U.S. better off as one country as opposed to the Union and Confederacy? Uniting people under one banner would do more to broker peace than a two state solution. It would never happen, but to deny the peace implications further shows your desire to see one side win.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:31 am to TK421
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Are you serious? Is the U.S. better off as one country as opposed to the Union and Confederacy? Uniting people under one banner would do more to broker peace than a two state solution. It would never happen, but to deny the peace implications further shows your desire to see one side win.
I agree with this. Since the end of the Civil Rights Movement, Blacks and Whites have lived relatively peacefully in this country. Of course race is still a major fault line, and there's still a lot of finger pointing, but we aren't carrying out terrorist attacks against each other, and trying to make the other side disappear.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:57 am to mizzoukills
Tell all those middle eastern countries that "care" so much for the Palestinians to give up some damn land for them to live on.
And
Kill every Hamas member
And
Kill every Hamas member
Posted on 7/15/14 at 12:06 pm to trackfan
How do you consider the treatment the palestinian people have received from the arab states of the area?
Just curious.
Just curious.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 12:11 pm to trackfan
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The Six Day War took place in 1967, not 1968, when Israel launched a Pearl Harbor-style sneak attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The Palestinians had nothing to do with it.
Pearl Harbor style, reeks of bias here. No that's not what happened and your efforts to paint Israel as the aggressor is pure fabrication.
A hostile country is massing superior numbers of tanks and infantry along your border for "exercises" and aircraft movements are probing your radar for intelligence on any weak areas, a preemptive strike is not Pearl Harbor part dieux it's going on the offensive to take the advantage of time away from the enemy and also to put the battlefield on their side of the border and not yours. Israel doesn't have a lot of land to give up. It was more brilliant than infamous.
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