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re: Israel Can't Count on "Weak" USA to Deal with Iran
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:43 pm to CITWTT
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:43 pm to CITWTT
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Who is running this country right now? Has he demonstrated anything remotely like being a friend of Israel over the last five years. He has gone out of his way through the efforts and words of Hillary and Kerry to twist the arms off Israel into signing a two state treaty with the Palestinians that would return to the pre-67 wars boundaries. That would be a piece of paper which they could not live with as a one part of it the Med. Sea would be visible from the border by an expanse of eight miles. As to who else they can trust the answer is no one at all. They do have a friend though not one that no one will recognize as being possible because of how absurd it would be to even allow for it to exist, Jehovah
The United States is Israel's best friend. We have stood by Israel from the start. If Israel has a better friend than America I've yet to see it. How much blood has the US shed in defense of Israel? Pepper our current government but don't pepper our people who have done so much. If Israel wants to go on it's own, it should. The US has done more than enough.
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:44 pm to LSURussian
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And you also failed to mention Hamas explicitly refused to agree to the proposal. Syria also said it would continue to support the Palestinians to continue armed resistence against Israel.
That's not true. Hamas has agreed to the plan, as well as Hezbollah.
LINK
And why wouldn't Syria continue to support the Palestinians until Israel accepts the plan?
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And you make it sound like Israel is being unreasonable for not agreeing to a one-sided suicidal proposal.
But Israel's position is that what every U.S. President has proposed is unreasonable, and so we have to consider the source. Don't forget that Ariel Sharon compared W to Neville Chamberlain. There's a reason why Israel is considered an international pariah state and has to rely on America's UN veto to protect it from harsh international sanctions.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:48 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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Our not starting another war for Israel is good for world stability.
I'm glad that you are still with us.
"I like beans."
Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:50 pm to trackfan
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Hamas has agreed to the plan, as well as Hezbollah.
Oh, really? As of today?
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Islamist political party Hamas, the elected government of the Gaza Strip, is deeply divided,[7] with most factions rejecting the plan.[1]
When has Hamas or Hezbollah EVER stuck to anything they have agreed to?
Hint: NEVER.
Eta: and your own link says the following:
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Other Hamas leaders either could not be reached to confirm his remarks or would not comment to an American reporter. Neither could it be independently ascertained whether Hamas' military wing, the Izzedine Qassam Brigades, agreed with the apparent new policy. Observers who were told of Shanab's remarks wondered whether they were aimed at preventing a huge Israeli military move against Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
Like I said earlier, you have ZERO credibility.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:02 pm to LSURussian
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Like I said earlier, you have ZERO credibility.
It really hurts my feelings that you question my credibility.
Anyway, you're welcome to continue viewing Israel as a valuable ally that has never done a thing wrong to incur that wrath of Arabs in general, and the Palestinians in particular. I, on the other hand, will continue to view Netanyahu's Likud regime as the apartheid, usurper, settler government that it is.
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:08 pm to trackfan
I'll accept that as an admission by you that your earlier post about the 2002 SA proposal was a lie. Thanks.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:03 am to trackfan
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That's not true. Hamas has agreed to the plan, as well as Hezbollah.
To a muslim lying to an infidel doesn't count as being a sin, it is actually encouraged. I have pointed out this fact multiple times to you yet you hard-headedly refuse to accept that fact. Trusting Hamas and Hezbollah at their word would be a mistake by anyone especially Jews.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:45 am to LSURussian
Yes he is one of the anti-Semites that really doesn't have a whole lot of knowledge on the intercourse between Arabs and Jews to rely upon. His depth is skin deep with emotions as their base and in fact not knowledge of the regions history beyond certain dates that he mentions at every turn. A poll for him to answer. How many times have the Arab nations attacked Israel since '48? Why did they do so if not to kill all of the Jews, which has been a stated goal of theirs for many more decades than you or me? Would you recognize a map of the region if there was no Israel(Their hearts desire in fact) on it? You and your father CT always speak of your desires for a two state solution when you will not address the perils that would be placed on Israel to do so.This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 7:57 am
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:44 am to KCT
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How do you get along with neighbors who want to annihilate you?
I would do whatever I needed to do. But I wouldn't be expecting someone else to do it for me.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 12:38 pm to KCT
I took the liberty of clarifying this assessment, K. FWIW.
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Perhaps the most sobering aspect of President Obama's indecisiveness and flip-flopping on matters of foreign policy is that, now, Israeli officials are speaking publicly about their inability to count on American (READ OBAMA) resolve to keep Iran from producing nuclear weapon capability. You can put the odds at 100% that Israel won't sit by and allow this to happen without taking military action. So, the question becomes, what happens if/when Israel attacks Iran? What does Putin do? How does Obama react? Does the UN, with 22 Muslim members and many other countries who harbor animosity towards Israel take some action if this happens? Imo, this is probably the biggest, and potentially most dangerous variable regarding the already unstable situation in Eastern Europe and the Middle East. LINK /
Posted on 3/21/14 at 12:53 pm to KCT
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How do you get along with neighbors who want to annihilate you?
Let my dog shite on their lawn
ETA: And shoot their cat with my pellet gun.
This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
I'm glad the Israelis are running their mouth about Obama. They're actually doing us a favor, because by letting the world know that they don't trust Obama to carry their water, they're also letting the world know that if Israel does attack Iran, they did it without our blessing. I'm also glad that Obama threw Netanyahu under the bus for assassinating Iran's nuclear scientists and university professors, lest the Iranians think we did it and decide to retaliate against our university professors.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:07 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Let my dog shite on their lawn
...but why would you deny yourself the pleasure? Why send the dog to do your work? This post was edited on 3/21/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:08 pm to CITWTT
You can always count on our resident Israel firster/Islamophobe too spew nonsense and ignorance whenever the subject of Israel comes up.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:09 pm to trackfan
Have Arab's ever done anything untoward in your boot licking opinion? 
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:12 pm to Jbird
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Have Arab's ever done anything untoward in your boot licking opinion?
Yes. Have Israel or Jews ever done anything wrong in your Likud-loving opinion?
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:13 pm to trackfan
quote:Wow and yet you have utter hatred for only one side in this mess.
Yes.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:37 pm to Jbird
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Wow and yet you have utter hatred for only one side in this mess.
You didn't answer my question.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:45 pm to trackfan
IDGAF for either Israel or the fricking Palestinians.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:49 pm to Jbird
Is that admission that Israel has not been infallible, and perhaps they've done some things to anger their Arabs? If so, why do you defend Israel at every turn?
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