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re: Israel ALREADY making concessions to help peace deal with Palestinians
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:23 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:23 am to DawgsLife
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Israel has put 900,000 settlers into lands claimed by Palestine.
Palestine is not a country, and they are on land that Israel controls.
Yes, claimed by Palestine. But don't expect peace and light from people whom you force to live in a police state.
I don't mind Israel pursuing its policies, but I do mind when our government rolls over for them to the detriment of U.S. interests.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:50 am to WhiskeyPapa
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It seems obvious to me also, that the plan was NEVER to bestow democracy on the Iraqis, the purpose of invading Iraq was to destroy it, to have that destruction spill over into Syria so it too could also be destabilized and destroyed.
Here is why I think that. After 9/11 the Bushies were wild to invade Iraq. Something again, that Cheney said in 1994 was a bad idea. It became a good idea because it suited Israel. But! We only had about half of the combat force that the CENTCOM plan said would be necessary. We attacked into Iraq with about 140K soldiers and Marines. The CENTCOM plan posited 300K. How to make up the difference? The stop gap was to decapitate the Iraqi Army of its Baathist leadership and use the rank and file soldiers to guard the weapons sites and maintain order.
That was the plan.
Three weeks after we invaded Iraq, the head of the provisional government, General jay Garner was fired and replaced by L. Paul Bremer. Twelve days later Bremer disbanded the entire Iraqi Army. There is a DIRECT correlation between this and the insurgents stealing ammunition from now unguarded ammo dumps all over Iraq that they used to make IED’s to kill many, many of our guys.
Bremer later received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
The IDEA FROM THE BEGINNING was to wreck Iraq, not give it a new start.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 8:59 am to WhiskeyPapa
As I have said before, look at the map of the Middle East, color Israel green, the Arab states red, and tell us exactly who gains from upheaval & unrest? Israel has been attacked 3 times. Saudi Arabia & Jordan, to name only 2 countries, could easily solve the problems in the Middle East with all their land & resources. Why don't they? Because it serves their interests to keep the Palestinians riled up & causing problems through out the area. Look at both the populations & land masses involved & tell us why Israel wants to keep causing shite as opposed to just being left alone.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:06 am to Keltic Tiger
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As I have said before, look at the map of the Middle East, color Israel green, the Arab states red, and tell us exactly who gains from upheaval & unrest?
Yes, the Arab powers that be like the Palestinians in camps. It ramps up the despair.
But Israel's answer seems clear.
Iraq - Wrecked - by us.
Syria - Wrecked - by us.
Libya - Wrecked - by us.
Never pay Retail, right?
Israel can do whatever they like. Leave us the frick out of it.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 12:19 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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It seems clear to me that the policy the Israelis are pursuing is to destabilize its neighbors and wreak as much havoc as possible in the region. That is their business until it involves the deaths of our soldiers and Marines.
That is fairly obvious for years, but it isn't just Israel, it is also the Saudi's, Qatar, UAE, and anyone else that is apart of the global cabal.
It isn't just an "Israeli" ordinance.
It isn't a Jewish end, but rather a NWO end. Remember daddy Bush pushing all that NWO shite during his presidency left and right.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 12:20 pm to bamarep
Supposedly so did Bill Clinton, and look how that played out.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 12:30 pm to Lsupimp
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The Jews are the problem Have you arrived at a Final Solution?
Posted on 5/22/17 at 12:34 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Yes, claimed by Palestine. But don't expect peace and light from people whom you force to live in a police state.
No one is forcing the Palestinians to live there except other Muslims. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq all sent them packing elsewhere. And maybe Israel wouldn't be a police state if, you know, everyone within 1,000 mile radius didn't want to kill them.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 12:41 pm to reo45
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It seems clear to me that the policy the Israelis are pursuing is to destabilize its neighbors and wreak as much havoc as possible in the region. That is their business until it involves the deaths of our soldiers and Marines.
That is fairly obvious for years, but it isn't just Israel, it is also the Saudi's, Qatar, UAE, and anyone else that is apart of the global cabal.
It isn't just an "Israeli" ordinance.
I don't know what any of that means, but I do know that the United States is led around by the nose for the sake of Israeli policy. That needs to stop.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 12:49 pm to WhiskeyPapa
[quote]Israel has put 900,000 settlers into lands claimed by Palestine.
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Palestine can CLAIM anything(and they usually do) that does not make it so, the FACT is the land is part of Israel, and the can do with it as they want, don't like it? Leave.
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Palestine can CLAIM anything(and they usually do) that does not make it so, the FACT is the land is part of Israel, and the can do with it as they want, don't like it? Leave.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:15 pm to bamarep
Damn impressive of Trump to travel back in time to October when the Israelis reached this decision.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:17 pm to montanagator
Bet you hated bibi's speech today
That sure as frick had nothing to do with October.
Hahahahahaha
That sure as frick had nothing to do with October.
Hahahahahaha
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