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Is the U.S. a rogue superpower?

Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:01 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53138 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:01 am
You guys probably almost all hate the U.N./international law and want Gaza leveled, but this is food for thought about how hypocritical the U.S. is when it comes to the phony "rules-based" order. It's why I laugh when SFP sky screams that Russia upset the international order for cleaning house in Ukraine. One critical aspect of all this is I think being a vassal state for Israel is damaging our credibility with the rest of the world. There is a trade angle at the end I added, but don't really have an opinion about.

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Ted Snider asks:

Is America a Rogue Superpower?

“Unipolar” used to mean that the United States was, at least in theory, alone in leading the world. Now “unipolar” means that the United States is alone and isolated in opposition to the world.

Snider refers to the recent UN Security Council resolution 2728 which "demands" a ceasefire in Gaza and "demands" a release of hostages and "demands" the unhindered supply of food and other items to Gaza.

The U.S. has claimed, falsely, that the resolution is not binding.

As Snider writes:

On March 25, the U.S. went one step further and took a step toward becoming a rogue state who has supplanted international law with its rules-based order. International law is grounded in the charter system and the United Nations and is universally applicable. The rules-based order is composed of unwritten laws whose source, consent, and legitimacy are unknown. To the global majority, those unwritten laws have the appearance of being invoked when they benefit the U.S. and its partners and not being invoked when they don’t.

On March 25, the Security Council passed a resolution demanding “an immediate ceasefire for the month of Ramadan respected by all parties leading to a lasting sustainable ceasefire.” The resolution was able to pass because the U.S. stood aside and let the other fourteen Security Council members pass it by abstaining instead of vetoing.

But in her explanation of the American abstention after the resolution passed, U.S. Ambassador to the UN Linda Thomas-Greenfield “surprisingly” said that “we fully support some of the critical objectives in this nonbinding resolution.”

Her claim that the Security Council resolution was nonbinding was not an off script, impromptu comment. It is the strategy of a country that enforces, not international law, but the U.S. led rules-based order.


Arnaud Bertrand has added a similar thought:

Since the beginning, it's been obvious that Gaza was in many ways a fight between International Law and the US's "rules-based order".

This whole episode around the UN resolution is a perfect illustration of this. There is no debate amongst international law scholars that resolutions by the UN Security Council that "demand" certain actions are binding (good explanation by a legal scholar here). In fact resolutions by the council ARE international law, article 25 of the UN Charter clearly states: "The Members of the United Nations agree to accept and carry out the decisions of the Security Council in accordance with the present Charter."

Yet the US now argues that the "rule" is in fact different: "It's a non-binding resolution, so there's no impact at all on Israel".

Where is this rule written, that somehow when the UNSC "demands an immediate ceasefire for the month of Ramadan respected by all parties leading to a lasting sustainable ceasefire", it's non-binding and "there's no impact at all" on the warring party?

Nowhere, that's the beauty of the rules-based order: the rules are made-up in the moment to fit the interests of the U.S. and its henchmen, depending on the circumstances.


The big issue here is that the whole world, literally, disagrees with the U.S. claims.

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The U.S. is now using protectionism, subsidies and tariffs, which are clearly illegal under WTO rules it had previously agreed to. But as it has managed, without having any serious argument, to destroy the WTO's court their is no longer a direct way it can get penalized for it.

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Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16958 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:04 am to
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Is the U.S. a rogue superpower?

Absolutely
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62396 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:08 am to
The BS they pulled with the SWIFT system, when Russia invaded Ukraine; taught the world to not trust the US. Now the reserve currency is at stake with the BRICS , as no one can trust us anymore… Maybe a Trump Presidency can restore our standing, but trending towards bad times with this Manchin project
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:08 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:10 am to
Just to be clear, the vast majority of international law is made up and non-enforceable.

Also, Putin is going to have a problem blaming NATO for everything if we're going to rely on UNSC actions as binding, b/c all of his arguments about NATO aggression involve UNSC authorizations/requests.

ALTHOUGH, I can't wait for all the people who hate the UN and globalism/leftism to chime in to agree with you out of their anti-American reflexology.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422114 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:10 am to
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. Now the reserve currency is at stake with the BRICS

No
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21528 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:12 am to
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One critical aspect of all this is I think being a vassal state for Israel is damaging our credibility with the rest of the world.


Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67740 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:14 am to
Maybe.

But that might be what it takes to keep order in the world.

Like how mafia run neighborhoods had low crime despite being run by a criminal organization.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15300 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:37 am to
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The BS they pulled with the SWIFT system


Enormous mistake that won't be fully realized until a decade later looking back.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
8504 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:24 am to
Frig' the UN and all Military Industrial Complexes. Take care of your own and if attacked, completely destroy the attacker. COMPLETELY!

It will yield less WAR. Get US out of UN now! After all, we are ROGUE.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
206 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 8:54 am to
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Get US out of UN now! After all, we are ROGUE.


If we cut off all money to the UN, the guy who wrote that article and all the other nations in the UN would change their tune in a heartbeat.

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57179 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 9:05 am to
I see no problem with East Germany.
Posted by alumiknotty
Member since Jan 2023
100 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 9:07 am to
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supplanted international law with its rules-based order. International law is grounded in the charter system and the United Nations and is universally applicable.


International law is meaningless and only as binding as the armies behind it.
Posted by ifyoubuildit
Member since Jan 2018
175 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 9:43 am to
Yes.
Posted by ifyoubuildit
Member since Jan 2018
175 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 9:44 am to


Add USA 2020 to this list.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
2355 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 9:48 am to
Yes, due to a rogue cia and fbi. Remove those two and the world will be safer.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53138 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 10:16 am to
Yeah, after I made my post I thought about Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc. That doesn't even get into CIA meddling and overthrowing (Maidan, 12 spy bases on the Ukraine/Russia border -- imagine what we don't know -- blowing up Nord Stream, etc.).

The verdict is in....rogue superpower.
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
4134 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 10:20 am to
Yes, in most cases. If we had the full story not told through propaganda and media, we would find out that we are the enemy.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29038 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 12:54 pm to
There are certain elements of the U.S. government that are every bit as evil as the worst terrorists in the world.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33396 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 1:30 pm to
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Now the reserve currency is at stake with the BRICS
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