Is the alt right gaining traction because libertarianism is failing?

I'd consider myself libertarian Republican.

I loved trump. I liked rand also. I know trump has a hands on big govt in some cases style. I felt like he would be a better choice as a transition person for rand later. Rather than rand take over right now. Trump is what we needed right now. I'll take rand after trump.

The alt right movement has seized on using memes and social media to spread their message, and honestly it's more entertaining.

Libertarians were sound in policy but where they failed is they got too detailed and complicated when trying to explain their idealogy. It's sad, but reality is most Americans are simple minded and need a simple message and value entertainment. The alt right seized upon that. And the movement has a lot of libertarian ideals embedded in it which is why many jumped on board.

Libertarians see trump and the alt right as necessary to changing the culture of America back to more traditional and patriotic ideals, and to purge the liberal indoctrination from our institutions in hope that future generations will be more informed and embrace the constitutional republic this country was founded as.

BTW the alt right does not exist. Troll. Similar to the Russian hacker who hacked Podesta's emails.

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it's the red state voters who are the most angry.

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Tell that to all the union democrats of the rust belt.

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And by failing, you mean winning the vote by 3 million?

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Do you and your snowflake buddies want a participation trophy for that?

Congrats on losing.

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Lots of libertarians took a "if you can't win em over, kick them out" position recently it appears. They moved from their from the micro (economic, property rights, markets, etc) to the meta (western culture vs oriential collectivism)

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their hand was kind of forced on the latter b/c of how much PC/sJW stuff has blown up the past 5 years or so. the fact that the #1 priority of the alt-Right is combating this stuff made the overlap natural. the fact that the alt-Right made politics fun again made the overlap palatable

think of the alt-Right as the emotional side and libertarianism as the logical-rational side

FWIW, lots of those aligned with the Alt-Right HATE libertarians. they think of them as pussies

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whoa

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I'm just asking because I don't really know.

I know there are white nationalists who are very active on the internet who claim to be be alt right.

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I know there are white nationalists who are very active on the internet who claim to be be alt right.

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they claimed "Alt-Right" b/c it got big as a name

the Alt-Right started as an anti-feminist movement and the vast majority of racist stuff they produce is by lil kids just going for lulz. it's like the neo-Hippie movement of shocking counter-culture to combat the typical social narrative

there aren't enough hardcore racists in this country to make a movement of any kind

Well, Gary Johnson certainly hurt the cause. His VP pick literally told people to vote for Hillary, which was the deal breaker for me in voting for Johnson, who is an idiot.

But I really don't think the Libertarians are enabling the alt-right. No one goes to bed being pissed off about a guy who wants small government and people not to frick with you. That's the Libertarians mentality: leave me the frick alone.

The far left on the other hand is calling all white people by default racists, saying that all other races are immune from this, that anyone who has a different thought from PC culture deserves to be in the basket of deplorables, and will silence anyone who disagrees with them. That is not the game Libertarians play. It is the left that has given the alt-right traction, since people can no longer actually say what's on their mind without a liberal twat jumping down their throats for saying otherwise.

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And by failing, you mean winning the vote by 3 million?

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You cucks didn't win shite.

well saying it "doesn't exist" is a bit much, but it's so vague and wide these days that it's not really defineable