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Is Crime Down?

Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:04 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19515 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:04 am
Leaving out several of the major liberal gardens of crime would seem to have an effect. Then too, these same "progressive" cities routinely downgrade a host of crimes to make it look better.

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Now, because roughly one-third of the country’s police departments don’t report their numbers to the FBI — jurisdictions like New York, L.A, Baltimore, D.C, and Chicago do not — the FBI report is only a (very vague) estimate. One reliable source — which I trust more than the Bureau on this — posits roughly 18,800 murders as the final nationwide number for 2023.


https://opsdesk.substack.com/p/is-crime-down?publication_id=1063744&post_id=143347203&isFreemail=false&r=17wqvp&triedRedirect=true
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 11:05 am
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10459 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:05 am to
No

Almost literally nowhere is it down.
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2126 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:07 am to
No its not being reported, crimes are being downgraded and many misdemeanors have been decriminalized
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67948 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:07 am to

Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4473 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:09 am to
No, as mentioned FBI does estimates and is very generous with those estimates. There was an example given, can't remember the city, but FBI said murders were down, where local PD said murders had gone up almost 10%
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50165 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:09 am to
It’s down in New Orleans.

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Statistics current as of March 4, 2024, show that violent crime is down 34 percent year to date compared to the same period in 2023.



LINK .

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112488 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:15 am to
Urban mayors have been redefining 'crime' for a long time to rig the statistics. My favorite was New Orleans reducing their murder rate:
If the victim is dead when the cops arrive, it's murder.
When the victim is taken to the hospital with gunshot wounds and dies there, it's 'deceased during hospitalization.' That eliminates dozens of murders per year.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54718 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Is Crime Down?


Need a bit more info

From what period to what period?

Is is down because of a stated cause or an unstated one?

Crime was down for a bit and both sides claimed policy for the credit but part was aging baby boomers meant they were in jail or dead so naturally the numbers dropped from this cause.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27145 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:35 am to
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No its not being reported,


Typical Democrat strategy when they don't like the numbers... Kinda like Clinton changing how unemployment was counted...

I never trust any government numbers...
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6505 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:54 pm to
Tell that to the future SOB that enters a house I'm inspecting in Birmingham .....He'll be the one with new hole in him. The hole he didn't have when he got up that morning.
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1434 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:56 pm to
The Media and the FBI are really trying to test the limits on their ability to coerce people into believing what they (the media and the FBI) want them to believe.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105413 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:21 pm to
When you reclassify crimes and don’t arrest or prosecute, of course numbers will drop. However, the reality is of course crime is very high.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13380 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:10 pm to
I got one better for you Zach, down here if you kidnap someone and kill them its not a kidnap, if you kidnap and ask for a ransom, okay thats kidnapping.

A while back one of one of the managers, she tosses a bag on my desk and said she got it for me this past weekend. I open the bag and its an MRI (field ration meal). I said whats this for, and she said this past weekend they kidnapped a guy, he said he was hungry and the kidnappers borrowed 20 bucks from him for some KFC, said they would pay him back when they got the ransom. "I didnt want you to go hungry if you didnt have any cash on you".
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4933 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:14 pm to
Yes, murders might be down in major cities but “lead poisoning” deaths have skyrocketed. Police don’t respond or people just don’t bother calling them anymore.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34157 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 3:20 pm to
If you decriminalize everything, then…

Posted by TigerDoug
Lees Summit
Member since Mar 2017
587 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:01 pm to
I SEE what you did there...
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4085 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:02 pm to
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It’s down in New Orleans.



Everyones dead, theyve had a civil war there for about 100 years.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8911 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:10 pm to
Dallas reported all crime is down with 1000 job openings.



Chief is a democrat so, numbers manipulation is the game.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50165 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 4:24 pm to
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Everyones dead, theyve had a civil war there for about 100 years.


Tell me you’ve never been to New Orleans without telling me you’ve never been to New Orleans.
Posted by nick__21
Member since Jan 2020
168 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 5:50 pm to
Crime can't go up when there aren't enough police officers to enforce the law or the DA drops most charges.




Would you call the police when their response time is 45 minutes and they won't do anything anyways?
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