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In redistricting fight, Graves could be the odd one out

Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:31 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17835 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:31 am
Graves faces headwinds in potential redistricting battle

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A confluence of internal Louisiana Republican politics and a looming redistricting fight could cost Rep. Garret Graves (R-La.) his seat next Congress.

Political headwinds are forming against Graves, a rising star and top ally of former Speaker Kevin McCarthy who has been at the center of this Congress’ major storylines.

Nothing is decided yet, to be clear. The Bayou State’s lawyers are currently fighting against court demands that would force Louisiana to redraw its congressional map to add a second district for the state’s Black voters. And on Thursday, the Supreme Court declined to intervene in the state’s case, potentially delaying redistricting.

But if there’s a new map, experts expect either Graves or Rep. Julia Letlow (R-La.) will see their seats dramatically changed. While there’s been no movement by the state legislature as the body waits for the courts, there’s reason to believe Graves could get hit with a significantly tougher district.

Two of Graves’ decisions this year have ruffled feathers in the tight-knit world of Louisiana politics.

First, Graves backed the gubernatorial primary opponent of Gov.-elect Jeff Landry, who stormed to victory this month. Graves’ support for Stephen Waguespack — who got just 5.9% of the vote — hasn’t gone down well with Team Landry.
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Another factor at play here is House Majority Leader Steve Scalise’s ill-fated bid for speaker. Scalise allies are upset that Graves didn’t endorse Scalise over Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio). Scalise is one of the top power players in Louisiana politics. One of his political proteges — Cameron Henry — is set to become the next state senate president.

Graves, to be fair, was far from alone in his silence on Scalise’s speaker bid. Letlow was the only member of the GOP delegation to publicly back Scalise. Louisiana Republican Reps. Clay Higgins and Mike Johnson both stayed out of the race, citing their close relationships with both Scalise and Jordan.

Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:32 am to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95331 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:33 am to
I don’t want to be in a minority majority district but I am OK with Graves being forced out if it happens.
Posted by TigerAllNightLong
Member since Jul 2023
277 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:37 am to
Still hoping Kavanaugh will grow a pair and throw out the VRA.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95331 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:38 am to
Needs to happen.

The VRA had a point in the 60s because there really was disenfranchisement. At this point, it is just weaponization of the government against one party.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17835 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:50 am to
Today, in The Advocate:

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One notable thorn in Scalise’s side was U.S. Rep. Garret Graves, R-Baton Rouge.

Scalise supporters say Graves was among those who undercut his campaign for the speakership, which would have put him behind the vice president in the presidential succession. Graves was one of former Speaker McCarthy’s most trusted lieutenants. McCarthy had criticized Scalise earlier this year and he was reported to have worked against Scalise's ascendance, while later promoting Jordan.
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While Scalise was pursuing the speakership, Graves’ public statements surprised some Louisiana politicos and media watching the action unfold from afar.

Graves told reporters after McCarthy’s Oct. 3 sacking that the result should not be “to just give everybody one rung of promotion.”

He did not name Scalise, but it was obvious that not moving people up the ladder would deny Scalise -- who holds the House’s No. 2 spot -- the top job. Graves has said his real focus was on fundamentally changing the majority’s rules.

The next day on Baton Rouge radio, Graves told interviewer Brian Haldane he had concerns about Scalise serving given his medical challenges.
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"I want to remind you he is going through an incredible bout of cancer right now and I don’t know that that’s the best decision for him or his family at this point,” Graves said. “That is one of the most stressful jobs that you can even imagine. His timing is not ideal for him. Obviously, we’d love to have a speaker from Louisiana."

Graves repeated his view that the Republican Conference needed to change the rules that had handcuffed House leadership and allowed eight Republicans to instigate McCarthy’s ouster.

Meanwhile, when reporters asked him about Jordan, Graves found ways to praise him. In an Oct. 5 interview, Graves said he believed the fiery Ohioan had “matured” during his years in the House.
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On Oct. 10, Graves stormed out of a closed-door GOP conference after it rejected an idea he had championed that would have changed how the Republicans would select a speaker. The plan was defeated on a motion by one of Scalise's supporters. Soon after, Scalise was voted speaker-designate, with 113 votes to Jordan's 99.

Rep. Chip Roy of Texas, who had officially proposed the change, said that Scalise’s defeat of the rule made him a "hard no" on Scalise.

As Scalise was trying to round up support from the additional 107 Republicans he needed, at least a half-dozen Scalise loyalists say Graves began reminding some colleagues of a controversial Scalise comment from years ago, in which he described himself as "David Duke without the baggage."

Graves also brought up a 2002 speech Scalise gave in Metairie to a group Duke organized, according to five Scalise supporters. Scalise apologized when the story emerged in 2014, saying he didn’t know what the group stood for.

In an interview Thursday in the Capitol, Graves emphatically denied he did anything to resurface those episodes.

“That is bulls--t. That is something they have said and that’s just not true,” Graves said.
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Old politicos who have watched the House imbroglio from afar said this week that regardless of how Scalise's bid was scuttled, the whole affair suggested that egos overtook a higher loyalty to what's best for Louisiana.

“I like Steve Scalise,” said former U.S. Sen. John Breaux, who represented Louisiana for 33 years in Congress. “Even if I hated Steve Scalise, I would have held my nose and voted for him because that’s in the best interest of the state of Louisiana. It’s beyond party stuff.”


Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98721 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Needs to happen.

The VRA had a point in the 60s because there really was disenfranchisement. At this point, it is just weaponization of the government against one party


A lot of laws need to be jettisoned because they are unconstitutional.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36017 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:00 am to
According to the 2020 census Louisiana’s population is 57.1% all white, 31.4% all black and the balance made up of Asians, Hispanics, multi race persons or others.

We have six Congressional districts but the courts are going to gerrymander our districts to assure that a black will win two out of the six!!!

This will also assure that a white will win four out of six.

The Constitution is supposed to be color blind, but to ignore geography, economic reasons, cultural reasons, etc. and to define districts solely on race isn’t following the Constitution.
Posted by pjcantrelle
Galliano, LA
Member since Jul 2008
344 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:03 am to
There should be no gerrymandering allowed. For either party. The districts should include complete parishes or counties. Period. Full stop.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19704 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:07 am to


Just look at these districts. They should be redrawn. Why should district 2 include large portions of New Orleans and Baton Rouge? Shouldn't Baton Rouge be in one district and New Orleans in another?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95331 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:10 am to
Minority Majority District.

Rules are that LA is supposed to have at least one black district due to percentages but the depopulation of NOLA means that you can’t have a 2nd District comprised of just Orleans anymore.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19059 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:15 am to
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First, Graves backed the gubernatorial primary opponent of Gov.-elect Jeff Landry, who stormed to victory this month. Graves’ support for Stephen Waguespack — who got just 5.9% of the vote — hasn’t gone down well with Team Landry.


So the new Rep governor is going to unseat a Rep congressman and give it to a Democrat… is that what your saying?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95331 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:16 am to
IF the courts hold that Louisiana has to make a second minority majority district, the governor has the sway to figure out whose district gets cut.

Landry, in fact, got fricked the LAST time we lost a district.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26749 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:17 am to
OH No!

anyway ...
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36017 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:17 am to
Why not six districts, each centered around a large city:
NO
BR
Laf
LC
Shreveport
Monroe

Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20310 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:19 am to
Aw, that's too bad. Couldn't happen to a more ineffectual establishment politician.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
11875 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:40 am to
His( Graves') Rhino ,BS artist arse needs to GO !

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37081 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:45 am to
quote:

The VRA had a point in the 60s because there really was disenfranchisement. At this point, it is just weaponization of the government against one party


If you didn't have the VRA, those 30% blacks would be 5% each per district due to gerrymandering.

The problem is gerrymandering, which means of course the solution is gerrymandering by someone else in charge.

It's all stupid. There needs to be a way to set up compact districts without any outside influence Let the numbers fall where they may.
Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
2379 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:01 pm to
Garrett Graves is a snake … always has been and always will be
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