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In 2017 what are Russian threats to U.S. interests?
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:23 pm
Please list them.
1. Cyber threats?
2. Invasion of eastern European countries?
3. Alignment with Iran and China?
1. Cyber threats?
2. Invasion of eastern European countries?
3. Alignment with Iran and China?
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:24 pm to GumboPot
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Russian treats to U.S. interests?
Hookers?
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:25 pm to GumboPot
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Russian treats to U.S. interests?
borshch and schi?
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:25 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Hookers?
Opened this thread just to post this!
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:25 pm to GumboPot
define US interests and I'll play along
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:25 pm to GumboPot
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treats
Hmmmm.... Maybe chocolate? I've heard from CNN that Putin is a real chocoholic
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:26 pm to GumboPot
Everything that makes Democrats look bad.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:27 pm to GumboPot
Making us look bad by picking against Soros's side in conflicts like Syria.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:27 pm to GumboPot
Vodka
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:28 pm to MrCarton
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define US interests and I'll play along
This is an important question. TBH, I don't know what specific U.S. interest are and what Russian interest are and where they conflict.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:28 pm to Texas Weazel
Just look at the Balkans, that is Putin's next playground. He has restarted the flame of Serb nationalism in Bosnia and now Kosovo (See Serb train incident). The last two years, it seems, have been the worst for Balkan relations. Not to mention the reported coup attempt in Montenegro a few months ago that was staged by Russian intelligence. This region is where the next European war will start. I can see Bosnia's Serb population declaring independence within the next two or three years and we'll see what the West will do.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:29 pm to GumboPot
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In 2017 what are Russian treats to U.S. interests?
They are smart enough to hack the election without leaving any proof. They are smart enough to hack Trump's cabinet.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:31 pm to goofball
They didn't hack the election, they exposed what scum bags the DNC have become.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:33 pm to Burhead
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Just look at the Balkans, that is Putin's next playground. He has restarted the flame of Serb nationalism in Bosnia and now Kosovo (See Serb train incident). The last two years, it seems, have been the worst for Balkan relations. Not to mention the reported coup attempt in Montenegro a few months ago that was staged by Russian intelligence. This region is where the next European war will start. I can see Bosnia's Serb population declaring independence within the next two or three years and we'll see what the West will do.
What side should be be on and why?
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:34 pm to GumboPot
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This is an important question. TBH, I don't know what specific U.S. interest are and what Russian interest are and where they conflict.
The USG doesn't know either. don't feel bad.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:36 pm to GumboPot
Russians people pose no threat to fine American country. Russians people only seek same sovereign status of state that USA have. Threat is propaganda.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:48 pm to Lsupimp
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Russians people pose no threat to fine American country. Russians people only seek same sovereign status of state that USA have. Threat is propaganda.
I would agree however, the Russian leadership is another deal. Putin knows that globalism is bad for Russia because they essentially produce 2 commodities - military hardware and oil. To stay relevant on a global scale, Putin has to be a thorn in the side of the EU and USA. The Russian people are used to hardship and being subjugated to the power of the state. Besides, what can they do against a dictator who doesn't hesitate to whack his political enemies? Weakening NATO, the EU, and USA are good things for Putinstan.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:51 pm to GumboPot
1. They have a lot of nuclear weapons.
2. They are a disruptive force that is not generally aligned with US interests.
3. The nature of their disruption is particularly acute relative to NATO/Warsaw Pact/Helsinki Accord involvements.
4. They strive to be an economic competitor and power-player on the world stage.
Seems like pretty run-of-the-mill shite to me. Kinda blows my mind that some are running around like Chicken Little as if all of this is news. Hell, the US has been in a posture of open hostility with them for over 70 years.
And with all that enmity -which has always included beaucoup spy activity from both sides- the US government still has managed to be a relationship with them, albeit somewhat weaker under W (had is hands full) and Obama (Ben Rhodes will never be remembered as a Foreign Policy genius).
SIDE NOTE: How the US has never related to Russia as they always never have.
WWII Alliance – 1940s
Post-Cuba missile crisis direct hotline – 1963
Partial Test-ban Treaty – 1963
Outer Space Treaty – 1967
Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty – 1968
Apollo-Soyuz Test Project – early 1970s
Trade Agreements, most significantly grain – 1970s
SALT 1 Treaty (ABM) – 1972
SALT II Talks, off and on – late 70s, early 80s
Perestroika” and “Glasnost” initiatives - 1980s
Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty – 1987
Joint Statement on Cooperation in Space – 1987
START Treaty – 1991
CFE Treaty – 1992
Shuttle – Mir Program – 1994-1998
ISS Partnership – 1998
G-8 membership granted to Russia, at behest of US – 1997
Moscow Treaty (SORT) – 2003
New Start Treaty – 2010
POCKOCMOC astronaut transport to ISS – 2012 to present
Sochi Winter Olympics (US participated) – 2014
2. They are a disruptive force that is not generally aligned with US interests.
3. The nature of their disruption is particularly acute relative to NATO/Warsaw Pact/Helsinki Accord involvements.
4. They strive to be an economic competitor and power-player on the world stage.
Seems like pretty run-of-the-mill shite to me. Kinda blows my mind that some are running around like Chicken Little as if all of this is news. Hell, the US has been in a posture of open hostility with them for over 70 years.
And with all that enmity -which has always included beaucoup spy activity from both sides- the US government still has managed to be a relationship with them, albeit somewhat weaker under W (had is hands full) and Obama (Ben Rhodes will never be remembered as a Foreign Policy genius).
SIDE NOTE: How the US has never related to Russia as they always never have.
WWII Alliance – 1940s
Post-Cuba missile crisis direct hotline – 1963
Partial Test-ban Treaty – 1963
Outer Space Treaty – 1967
Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty – 1968
Apollo-Soyuz Test Project – early 1970s
Trade Agreements, most significantly grain – 1970s
SALT 1 Treaty (ABM) – 1972
SALT II Talks, off and on – late 70s, early 80s
Perestroika” and “Glasnost” initiatives - 1980s
Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty – 1987
Joint Statement on Cooperation in Space – 1987
START Treaty – 1991
CFE Treaty – 1992
Shuttle – Mir Program – 1994-1998
ISS Partnership – 1998
G-8 membership granted to Russia, at behest of US – 1997
Moscow Treaty (SORT) – 2003
New Start Treaty – 2010
POCKOCMOC astronaut transport to ISS – 2012 to present
Sochi Winter Olympics (US participated) – 2014
Posted on 1/16/17 at 1:51 pm to Big12fan
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Weakening NATO, the EU, and USA are good things for Putinstan.
Weakening NATO I could see as a good thing for Putin but weakening the EU?
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