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Ghengis Khan and Subutai, Alexander the Great, Charlemagne, Julius Caesar, Napoleon... these men believed evolution as the ultimate ruler of societies.

John Smith in Jamestown, VA and Vladimir Lenin during the Russian Revolution, espoused similar principles related to self-sufficiency and strength.

These aren't new or obscure principles. And none of those men is Hitler.

You're right, none of them are Hitler. However, they all possessed something Hitler also possessed and that you are displaying in full form. Cold, calculated, and unempathetic reason.

I cannot deny you that Imperialism could lead to a better world. It would only be better for a few and tyrannical for the many. Assuming the many still existed and weren't wiped out en masse because they viewed the world differently.

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Your statement about one-nation rule is not born logically from the preceding sentence. Accepting natural selection as a general principle does not imply that one promotes a one-nation system of governance.

And what, do you see, as a ruling body of global monoculturalism?

I'm still trying to nail down what you are proposing? Do you think we should kill everything and anything that doesn't accept our culture and way of life?

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Posted by crazy4lsu

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Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:00 am to Pecker

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Am I missing something?

Yes. People want to make decisions for themselves. Ethnic self-determination went a long way in making Europe what it is and Africa and the ME specifically should follow suit.

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Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:09 am to SidewalkDawg

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I cannot deny you that Imperialism could lead to a better world. It would only be better for a few and tyrannical for the many. Assuming the many still existed and weren't wiped out en masse because they viewed the world differently.

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I'm still trying to nail down what you are proposing? Do you think we should kill everything and anything that doesn't accept our culture and way of life?

It's not a matter of "viewing the world differently."
It's a matter of utility. Those who contribute will always have a place in any society. I'm also not suggesting mass genocide of the conquered, although I will say that nation building is an ugly part of history. The Old Testament is replete with instances of the Israelites' conquering and demoralizing defeated nations.

What I'm saying is that imperialism is a good thing and has always been a good thing. There are various ways to approach the handling of defeated peoples, some more humane than others.

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Posted by WildTchoupitoulas

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Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:15 am to Pecker

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What I'm saying is that imperialism is a good thing and has always been a good thing.

So, you would've been a Loyalist in 1776, and fought for King George?

Imperialism is great, when you're not one of the ones being oppressed.

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Posted by SidewalkDawg

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Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:20 am to Pecker

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What I'm saying is that imperialism is a good thing and has always been a good thing. There are various ways to approach the handling of defeated peoples, some more humane than others.

As has already been pointed out. It's only good for the winners.

If Hitler hadn't been defeated, you'd be living in quite a different world. One that probably wouldn't afford you the privilege of having this thought.

You live in a society that's rule of law doesn't share your binary views. Were it to, I'd be within my rights to kill you for this opinion.