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Illegal immigrants "fiscal drain" SIX times more than deportation costs
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:13 am
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:13 am
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Facts are a mf aren't they libs?
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The "fiscal drain" of illegal immigrants on American taxpayers is about 6 times the price of deporting them, according to a new study that bolsters the Trump administration's bid to remove criminal illegals and cut overall immigration costs.
The Center for Immigration Studies on Thursday said in a new report that deportation costs an average of $10,854. According to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, that includes apprehension, detention, and processing.
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Letting illegal immigrants stay in the U.S., results in a bill to taxpayers of $65,292 "for each illegal immigrant, excluding their descendants," according to Steven A. Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies. That includes government benefits.
Camarota, citing two key fiscal impact studies, said that reason the cost of illegal immigration is high is because many are poorly educated and require more in government benefits than others.
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In short, illegal immigrants are a large net fiscal drain because of their education levels and this fact drives the results. Deportation, on the other hand, is not that costly relative to the fiscal costs illegal immigrants create," he wrote.
Facts are a mf aren't they libs?
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:14 am to bamarep
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Facts are a mf aren't they libs?
Not a MF but they're racist......I think that's the narrative
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:23 am to bamarep
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:24 am to bamarep
Leftists always talk about how expensive it would be to deport... about the only time they care about government spending. They never talk about how much illegals cost
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:25 am to bamarep
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deportation costs an average of $10,854
How much wall, barrier, fence, blimp, drone, camera, or whatever other deterrent is deemed necessary would this pay for?
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Letting illegal immigrants stay in the U.S., results in a bill to taxpayers of $65,292
Or this?
eta: If you reduce the numbers crossing illegally, you reduce the numbers being deported. The wall or whatever pays for itself. No need to get Mexico to pay.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 7:28 am
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:28 am to BamaFan365
The cost for a wall is finite.....the cost of doing nothing is infinite.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:29 am to Wtodd
Common sense tells you the the expense for a wall would still be a net gain for our country.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:31 am to bamarep
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Common sense
When does that ever prevail in Washington?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:31 am to bamarep
quote:That sounds dubious.
Letting illegal immigrants stay in the U.S., results in a bill to taxpayers of $65,292 "for each illegal immigrant
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:41 am to bamarep
I didn't read all of your link, but did it mention anything about the economic impact of removing the illegals in regards to taxes paid, reducing cost of goods sold, etc? Well known liberal Alan Greenspan had this to say about the economic impact of illegals in 2009.
LINK
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Alan Greenspan, PhD, former Chairman of the US Federal Reserve, stated in his Apr. 30, 2009 testimony before the US Senate Subcommittee on Immigration, Refugees, and Border Security:
"[T]here is little doubt that unauthorized, that is, illegal, immigration has made a significant contribution to the growth of our economy. Between 2000 and 2007, for example, it accounted for more than a sixth of the increase in our total civilian labor force. The illegal part of the civilian labor force diminished last year as the economy slowed, though illegals still comprised an estimated 5% of our total civilian labor force. Unauthorized immigrants serve as a flexible component of our workforce, often a safety valve when demand is pressing and among the first to be discharged when the economy falters.
Some evidence suggests that unskilled illegal immigrants (almost all from Latin America) marginally suppress wage levels of native-born Americans without a high school diploma, and impose significant costs on some state and local governments.
However the estimated wage suppression and fiscal costs are relatively small, and economists generally view the overall economic benefits of this workforce as significantly outweighing the costs."
Apr. 30, 2009 - Alan Greenspan, PhD
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This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 7:43 am
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:45 am to Big12fan
Greenspan is also a globalist.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:46 am to NC_Tigah
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That sounds dubious
It does. Even if that is low it's still too much.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:50 am to Big12fan
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Alan Greenspan
His boss didn't like walls either.
Why did that wall need to be torn down if walls don't work?
eta: Couldn't the East Germans have just dug tunnels or used a ladder?
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 7:52 am
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:54 am to bamarep
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The Center for Immigration Studies
Give them a google. Hard right group who favor far lower immigration. Also, produce "data", that is uber flawed, and proved as such, to further their position. Not at all unbiased. Not a good source.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 7:55 am to bamarep
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In April of this year, ICE reported that the average cost of a deportation, also referred to as a removal, was $10,854 in FY 2016, including apprehension, detention, and processing.
Partly due to policies adopted in the second term of the Obama administration, ICE removed nearly 170,000 fewer aliens in 2016 than in 2012, even though it actually spent 8 percent more in 2016 in inflation-adjusted dollars. The removal of so many more illegal immigrants in FY 2012 means that the average cost per removal in that year was $5,915, adjusted for inflation.
If the average cost of a deportation was what it had been in FY 2012, then the larger enforcement budget in FY 2016 would have allowed for 200,000 more removals without spending additional money.
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but that isn't how you come up with a number of how much it cost to deport someone. You can't take your whole budget and divide it by the number of people you deported to get a cost of deportation.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:05 am to Big12fan
quote:sounds like every other left wing progressive intellectual. "This is complicated, you're not smart enough, let us handle it. Ignore all the obvious signs our plans are failing, we have PhDs from Harvard"
I didn't read all of your link, but did it mention anything about the economic impact of removing the illegals in regards to taxes paid, reducing cost of goods sold, etc? Well known liberal Alan Greenspan had this to say about the economic impact of illegals in 2009.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:07 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
But who will clean our toilets?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:11 am to bamarep
Trump needs to give a major Speech for Immigration Reform, and INFORM Americans that if we continue to import poor and unemployable immigrants who get on Government Subsidies...they the cost and quality of their Medicare, Medicaid, Inflation (Government Debt required to fund these Subsidies), Law Enforcement, Schools and is going to get a lot worse.
He should tell Americans the truth. They can be charitable, but they ALL WILL pay. Rich and poor alike. Your choice.
He should tell Americans the truth. They can be charitable, but they ALL WILL pay. Rich and poor alike. Your choice.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:11 am to bamarep
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Common sense
Isn't so common
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:14 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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sounds like every other left wing progressive intellectual. "This is complicated, you're not smart enough, let us handle it. Ignore all the obvious signs our plans are failing, we have PhDs from Harvard"
I was being sarcastic about calling Greenspan a liberal, because I thought everybody knew he isn't. Do you think Ronald Reagan would appoint a "left wing progressive intellectual" as chairman of the Fed Reserve?
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