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Illegal immigrant sues police for doing an "illegal search and seizure"?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:18 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:18 am
Civil rights suit planned over immigrant's arrest (El Paso Times)
This is about as ironic as its going to get today. I just dont understand people anymore.
quote:
The planned lawsuit, announced Monday, is based on the alleged violation of Vasquez’s Fourth Amendment right against unlawful search and seizure. State troopers stopped him for having dark window tint on his vehicle in the Montana Vista area and later called Border Patrol agents, who arrested him.
quote:
When Department of Public Safety troopers discovered Vasquez did not have a driver’s license, they decided to detain him and search his vehicle instead of issuing a traffic citation, he said.
This is about as ironic as its going to get today. I just dont understand people anymore.
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:19 am to PaperTiger
So if he didn't have a driver's license, should he simply be allowed to drive off?
(Not disagreeing with your post, just wanting to head off our resident liberals)
(Not disagreeing with your post, just wanting to head off our resident liberals)
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:20 am to PaperTiger
he isnt covered by the 4th amendment right since he is not a citizen. court shouldnt even waste their time and tax payer money on this and just drop kick his arse out of the USA.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 11:26 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:20 am to PaperTiger
quote:
This is about as ironic as its going to get today. I just dont understand people anymore.
This will go nowhere. Of course a vehicle can be searched incidental to an arrest.
Would be funny if Trump sent in ICE and has the a-hole deported before this sham of a case even went to court though lol
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:21 am to tke857
quote:4th amendment says "people," not "citizens."
he isnt covered by the 4th amendment right since he is not a citizen
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:23 am to PaperTiger
Well, according to Hawaii our Constitution covers everyone world wide.
So...
So...
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:23 am to PaperTiger
Illegal tint for an illegal alien 
Driving without a license.
They are being mean to him.
A bet he had a spoiler on the trunk lid too.
Driving without a license.
They are being mean to him.
A bet he had a spoiler on the trunk lid too.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:25 am to roadGator
quote:
A bet he had a spoiler on the trunk lid too.
And shitty pressed weed...
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:30 am to Iosh
quote:
4th amendment says "people," not "citizens."
idc what it says if you come here illegally then break a law then think you are protected under the laws of the USA then you are sorely mistaken. Time to go chico!
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:30 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Well, to be honest, they searched before they arrested him (if you argue detention is arrest in this case, then everyone pulled over can be searched) and they didn't know he was an illegal until they searched.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:32 am to tke857
quote:The 4th amendment doesn't delineate by citizenship status. Maybe being an illegal immigrant can be used as cause for a search, but it's not like the government no longer has those restraints.
he isnt covered by the 4th amendment right since he is not a citizen. court shouldnt even waste their time and tax payer money on this and just drop kick his arse out of the USA.
Furthermore, if it only applies to citizens doesn't that mean legal immigrants, who are not citizens, are not protected either?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:33 am to PaperTiger
The second biggest thing is why does the lawyer think that his client should have just gotten a ticket? Who would they have written it to? At some point, they would have found out his identity.
Why does this lawyer think that he has a case?
Why does this lawyer think that he has a case?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:34 am to PaperTiger
Thats funny since when do illegal immigrants have rights in this country???
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:34 am to tke857
quote:So an illegal immigrant can be thrown in jail, technically forever, without any due process (like to deport him)?
idc what it says if you come here illegally then break a law then think you are protected under the laws of the USA then you are sorely mistaken.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:36 am to buckeye_vol
i get what your saying the keyword here is ILLEGAL alien. Lets do a if this than that scenario:
If legally in the united states then you are afforded protections stated within the law.
If not here legally then your arse gets booted out when caught. (this should take precedence in most decisions that LEO has to make when finding an illegal immigrant, yes I do understand that some circumstances are different).
If legally in the united states then you are afforded protections stated within the law.
If not here legally then your arse gets booted out when caught. (this should take precedence in most decisions that LEO has to make when finding an illegal immigrant, yes I do understand that some circumstances are different).
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 11:41 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:37 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
So an illegal immigrant can be thrown in jail, technically forever, without any due process (like to deport him)?
dont here come illegally simple enough. Plus I am happy to say I dont think we will be wasting money on detaining and jailing illegals any more. They are just going to get the boot.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:38 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
So an illegal immigrant can be thrown in jail, technically forever, without any due process (like to deport him)?
Technically yes, but to keep the cost of living in the jails down, we typically will send their arse back to whatever country they came from.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:39 am to Iosh
quote:
4th amendment says "people," not "citizens."
It says "the people" in reference to "We The People" the citizens of this country.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:41 am to tke857
quote:That's fine. But the government still must follow the law as well.
If not here legally then your arse gets booted out when caught.
Besides, I see the Constitution less about what we can do, and more about what the government can or can't do.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:41 am to LSU12223
In all fairness....He was an illegal, they searched for him, and when they found him they seized him.
Hence illegal search and seizure.
Hence illegal search and seizure.
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