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If The Left Wins Their Soft Coup, Everyone Loses - But Mostly Them

Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:04 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:04 am
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You have to wonder how liberals think this works. So, a manifestly conflicted special counsel leading a pack of maxed-out Democrat donors decides Donald Trump has to be kicked out of office for “obstructing justice” regarding a cynical lie about him cavorting with the Kremlin and…then what? President Pence, until they do the same thing to him? Or do we just skip right to President Felonia von Pantsuit, shrug our shoulders, and give up on our foolish dream of having a say in our own governance?

Straightforward from here is…chaos.

Because normal Americans are woke to the scam. No, the affidavits of a zillion DC/NY establishment types attesting to Robert Mueller’s impeccable integrity – ever notice how the guy trying to hose us always has the establishment’s “impeccable integrity” merit badge – are not going to make us unsee the fact that he’s carrying water for an establishment that thinks we need to just shut up and obey.

Now, pulling off the soft coup is going to be harder than they think. The establishment has not thought this out. They sort of assume that if they squelch Trump then everything somehow just goes back to them being in unchallenged control. Wrong.


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Normal people aren’t falling for it.

Has anyone out there actually met a Trump voter who said something like this?

I supported Trump, but now I don’t because his refusal to passively sit back and let a Washington insider with an obvious conflict of interest and his Democrat staff drive him out of office on the basis of a Hillary-driven lie far outweighs Neil Gorsuch, pulling out of the climate scam, beating ISIS, and repealing Obamacare.


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What do they think comes after Trump? Someone nice?

Do they think we stop demanding we be heard? Do they think we give up on participating in governing the country that we normals built, that we normals paid for, and that we normals fought for?


Oh well, we should have known not to get all uppity and try to have a say in our own country. Let’s let our betters rule us. Let’s obey.

No, that’s not going to happen. If liberals like chaos and even violence – and their *wink wink* denunciations of their own creature’s attempted conservative murder spree and their squealing delight in a high-profile play where the President is butchered onstage show they think they do – then the way to get chaos and violence is for them to succeed in their campaign of fascist, anti-democratic scheming against the guy who beat the harpy they nominated.

If you want real political chaos and real political violence, then just keep going down this path. You can’t light the fuse and not get the explosion. I saw what happens when you toss away the rule of law – don’t do it.

The hatred out there is real and growing. This is not a good thing – it’s a terrible thing. People are buying my novels about the country splitting apart and the horrifying specter of actual civil warfare (Hint: it’s ugly) because that’s where the establishment’s desperate schemes to hold onto power despite the will of the people, as manifested at the ballot box, all lead.

And the left is not ready for what its stupidity and greed could unleash. The establishment hacks think they can undermine the foundations of this country and not have it collapse on top of them. What progressives forget is that the rules, norms, and customs they ignore are not there to protect the normals, but to protect the weak and vulnerable elites who can’t go to their gun safe and choose from a half-dozen long weapons when things get real.

Here’s how this goes: If you end the rule of law, you begin the rule of power, and the rule of power means the folks with the most guns rule. Do they think the predominantly red state soldiers of our military are going to murder other Americans and risk their own lives to secure the unearned power of a bunch of Chardonnay-swilling liberals and their fakecon lackeys?

If they knew any soldiers, they would know the answer.

Before it’s too late and before you’ve done damage that can’t be undone, give up this dream of some extra-constitutional dues ex Mueller to overturn the election you lost. Turn away from this insanity before it’s too late, because straightforward from here is chaos.
Posted by Wally Sparks
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:08 am to
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Do they think we stop demanding we be heard? Do they think we give up on participating in governing the country that we normals built, that we normals paid for, and that we normals fought for?



No, they want the opposition to be exterminated...literally.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:09 am to
Pence is a shitty version of Santorum. He had a miserable approval rating in Indiana and a string of incidents that his faith overstepped common sense and bled into the law.

Pence is an easy to defeat Republican. He's also not senile and seems to have the temperament for President.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:11 am to
smearing Robert Muller is not a winning strategy
Posted by Scruffy
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:12 am to
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No, they want the opposition to be exterminated...literally.


The progressives are already attempting to do that...literally.
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:13 am to
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Has anyone out there actually met a Trump voter who said something like this?

I supported Trump, but now I don’t because his refusal to passively sit back and let a Washington insider with an obvious conflict of interest and his Democrat staff drive him out of office on the basis of a Hillary-driven lie far outweighs Neil Gorsuch, pulling out of the climate scam, beating ISIS, and repealing Obamacare.



I'm not sure if there are any remaining Trump supporters who can string that many words together in a sentence.

Remind me the dates when ISIS was defeated and Obamacare was repealed?
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 10:38 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:13 am to
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smearing Robert Muller is not a winning strategy

if your base is built on being anti-establishment, there isn't that big of a risk

in fact, this whole scenario is basically a self fulfilling prophecy the progs/libs are falling into

Trump's base is fatalist. this is exactly what they expected
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:15 am to
If the left was actually successful in getting DJT impeached it would be the beginning of the end of progressivism.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:15 am to
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if your base is built on being lied to, there isn't that big of a risk


FTFY
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:16 am to
How about people let Mueller do his job and stop trying to obstruct. If Trump's clean he has nothing to worry about.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:16 am to
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If the left was actually successful in getting DJT impeached it would be the beginning of the end of progressivism.


If Trump is impeached that means Republicans will have done it. How could you blame the left under such a scenario?
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:16 am to
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in fact, this whole scenario is basically a self fulfilling prophecy the progs/libs are falling into



Oh no, don't throw us into the briar patch!

Not really worried about the 20% of Americans who will stick with Trump no matter what. This doesn't endear the independents to him, and he'll need them in 2020.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:16 am to
uh

that applies to all major politicians/parties. that has nothing to do with Trump (or Republicans) specifically
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:19 am to
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This doesn't endear the independents to him, and he'll need them in 2020.

ask yourself why those people went with Trump and what, exactly, he's done to lose them

they rejected the establishment. he's don little to go back on this and he's being persecuted by the establishment

they wanted jobs. he's rolling back regulations and getting nations/companies to invest in jobs

they rejected the identity politics of the DEMs that ramped up in 2010 when they went off the rails. he's continued to fight that

the main reversal he's had is in relation to immigration, but he's not in danger of losing those people b/c they're not going to vote for a DEM and their immigration policies
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:19 am to


No one will ever believe WaPo or the NYTimes again, no matter how sensationalized or BOMBSHELL like the headline is.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:20 am to
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uh

that applies to all major politicians/parties. that has nothing to do with Trump (or Republicans) specifically


There's a difference between spin, even blatant spin, with outright pushing the objectively false as fact as part of your modus operandi.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:22 am to
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There's a difference between spin, even blatant spin, with outright pushing the objectively false as fact as part of your modus operandi.

The very definition of the MSM and democrats. Thank you for brilliantly pointing this out.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21898 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:22 am to
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ask yourself why those people went with Trump and what, exactly, he's done to lose them


"economic anxiety" of course, and whatever he's done to lose them, he's hemorrhaging them fast. His strong approval numbers are crashing to the floor.

Ask yourself, what has he done to turn so many strong supporters off in so short of a time? And why might that be significant?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:23 am to
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The very definition of the MSM and democrats


no
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422710 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:24 am to
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There's a difference between spin, even blatant spin, with outright pushing the objectively false as fact as part of your modus operandi.

i agree

everyone does the latter. it's not exclusive to Republicans or Trump's coalition

that's what giving the state power does: it creates an incentive for those wielding that power to lie to maintain/expand the power

this is not an issue of Tump. this is an issue of state expansion and authoritarianism
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