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How were dems able to consolidate so much power under Obama?

Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
831 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:19 pm
Before Obama I would say wwe didn't have as many ideologicay people in power. The media while left leaning but generally were neutral, courts where more so impartial, and goverment agencies strickly focused on the task.


What did Obama do to be able to overtake the federal government with so much power that it will take decades to cleanse it.

I believe one thing is day one Obama fired everyone Bush hired. Meanwhile Trump was advise that he couldn't a shouldn't an had the false belief federal employees would fall in line.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:21 pm to
Did you take a really long nap during the Bush and Trump years

Because it sure sounds like it
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118883 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:25 pm to
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How were dems able to consolidate so much power under Obama?


The Patriot Act.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
4433 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:27 pm to
Let me suggest an alternate question …. at what time did the Intelligence community begin using the Patriot Act to assume administrative control over the US Government.


This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 2:29 pm
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12969 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

How were dems able to consolidate so much power under Obama?


Loaded up the bureaucracy with like minded leftists
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
2428 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:31 pm to
How? With the help of the GOPe. Don't forget the GOPe sidelined the Tea Party, which was the only resistance to obama.

Stop voting GOPe.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118883 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:40 pm to
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Why does government seem to control so much of our lives now? What significant changes happened in the past 15 years that created a social shift and allowed government to influence almost every facet of our activity? Why has the previously ordinary become so complex? Why is it more difficult to be comfortably invisible and just live out the creed of pursuing ‘life, liberty and happiness’? What is behind all this?….

We were not sleeping, we were wide awake. Perhaps distracted, yes; but we were wide awake when something shifted. A Fourth Branch of Government was quietly created, and technology allowed the tentacles of the system to touch us. That’s the root of it, and if we take the time to understand how the Fourth Branch originated questions about this perpetual angst start to make sense.






Read the rest here (long):

The Fourth Branch of United States Government

Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
7959 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:41 pm to
Weak arse Republicans did plenty to help Barry.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6932 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:44 pm to
It wasn’t just Obama. There is very little to no difference between Clinton-W Bush-Obama. That’s 24 consecutive years of power between them and they all played a role in where we are as a country. They might as well all be the same person looking back on it. No President is going to be able to undo 24 years in 4 or 8. Trump failed miserably at this and in reality only expanded the swamp by appointing idiots like Wray, Milley, Bolton, etc.
Posted by Denali4591
Member since Feb 2024
147 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:46 pm to
Idk why you’re being downvoted bush was a globalist nightmare
Posted by dantes69
Boise, Id.
Member since Aug 2011
2022 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:47 pm to
do you not remember all the firings that happened in his first year? all those top brass let go or forced into retirement so he could push the wokesters into power spots. It did not stop with the military.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6932 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

do you not remember all the firings that happened in his first year? all those top brass let go or forced into retirement so he could push the wokesters into power spots. It did not stop with the military.


You realize Trump could have forced all those Obama people out but he was too lazy to actually do it? He also appointed Milley for gods sake it doesn’t get anymore woke than that and Trump put him into power
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34732 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 3:21 pm to
Clinton fired every federal district attorney.
Every fricking one.
Hell, the Clinton's fired everyone in the White House travel office.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48425 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 3:23 pm to
None of the Wash DC GOP professional politicians had the courage to stand up to Obama's Leftist advances because they didn't want to risk being called Racist by a journalist.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39519 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 3:35 pm to
There was an infographic about this circulating years ago that has since been scrubbed, but Obama appointed a mind boggling number of rabid and unscrupulous ideologues. He set records for appointees from academia, lobbying firms, and the like. Prior to Obama, presidents appointed allies to high level positions, but rank and file were all workerbee types who made their careers in DC regardless of party politics. He also built in a trend started by Clinton where federal bench seats were kicked into overdrive, and community groups at the local levels (think Acorn) were weaponized to get party loyalists elected to DA, SOS, and other key seats at the state level.

In short, politicize everything not nailed down.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56389 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

Before Obama I would say wwe didn't have as many ideologicay people in power. The media while left leaning but generally were neutral, courts where more so impartial, and goverment agencies strickly focused on the task.

What planet do you live on?
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What did Obama do
As far as democrats go, Clinton is the one who purged all of the non-leftists from the party, while simultaneously creating the neocon right we see today. Obama just energized the zealots with racial self righteousness and put more lunatics into powerful positions they still hold today.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28628 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 3:51 pm to
Because they have been doing it for 70-100 years.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68732 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 3:52 pm to
They called you a racist.

So most people tucked tail.
This post was edited on 2/11/24 at 3:53 pm
Posted by AngelBaby
Heaven
Member since Nov 2007
238 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 4:19 pm to
I heard Scalise asked about Obama’s disregard for the Constitution-among other transgressions over TEN years ago, and he cited the racism excuse for his silence.

How are our leader so thin-skinned, or are they not “leaders”?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24839 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

How were dems able to consolidate so much power under Obama?

The GOPe was complicit and only played the role of controlled opposition. When both "sides" are just two sides of the same trick coin, the coinholder always wins.
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