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How true is this quote about Trump?
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:25 pm
"His supporters took him seriously but not literally. His detractors took him literally but not seriously."
I honestly think it sums up the campaign as a whole. I don't think the average Trump supporter thinks he's going to export 11 million illegals and ban all Muslims, but they liked at least the path he was going down. People like me on the other hand took everything he said literally, which led to me losing my shite over the election, especially knowing he was probably going to win.
How true do you think that statement is?
I honestly think it sums up the campaign as a whole. I don't think the average Trump supporter thinks he's going to export 11 million illegals and ban all Muslims, but they liked at least the path he was going down. People like me on the other hand took everything he said literally, which led to me losing my shite over the election, especially knowing he was probably going to win.
How true do you think that statement is?
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Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:26 pm to OMLandshark
-Peter thiel
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:29 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
"His supporters took him seriously but not literally. His detractors took him literally but not seriously."
Trump said this during one of his thank-you speeches. He said it was a smart explantion. I agree.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:29 pm to OMLandshark
It's true to some degree.
What's more true is that people "like you" heard Trump say Mexico isn't sending their best. They're sending rapists, drug dealers...some of them are good people...etc.
And you heard "TRUMP SAYS ALL MEXICANS ARE RAPISTS AND DRUG DEALERS OMG THE OUTRAGE HE IS LITERALLY frickING HITLER AND HE HAS TO BE STOPPED BECAUSE HOLY frick!!!!!"
That's because you're stupid drama queens, and broke, sick people.
What's more true is that people "like you" heard Trump say Mexico isn't sending their best. They're sending rapists, drug dealers...some of them are good people...etc.
And you heard "TRUMP SAYS ALL MEXICANS ARE RAPISTS AND DRUG DEALERS OMG THE OUTRAGE HE IS LITERALLY frickING HITLER AND HE HAS TO BE STOPPED BECAUSE HOLY frick!!!!!"
That's because you're stupid drama queens, and broke, sick people.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:29 pm to OMLandshark
He started off with big bold statements that slowly back off to much more moderate stances which is standard deal making strategy.
The most impressive thing he and his campaign did was understand which EVs were really in play and then focus his message specifically to those areas.
The left keeps saying this race was about white v non-white but it was more about giving people hope. Trump was preaching hope to people scared about paying their bills. HRC was just preaching to her base.
The most impressive thing he and his campaign did was understand which EVs were really in play and then focus his message specifically to those areas.
The left keeps saying this race was about white v non-white but it was more about giving people hope. Trump was preaching hope to people scared about paying their bills. HRC was just preaching to her base.
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:33 pm to OMLandshark
The only way to see if he walks the talk was to elect him. We took that page out of Pelosi's book.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:33 pm to OMLandshark
Pretty true--at least regarding me.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:36 pm to OMLandshark
A little of both. I never thought he would round up all the illegals and have them deported. Rather, I believed he was setting it up to force a compromise. Stop the inflow of illegals, deport the criminal element, and shut down sanctuary cities. That is what needs to happen immediately and seems mild in comparison to gathering up and deporting all illegals. These three actions(prior to his campaign) were taboo to the establishment but now seem soft in comparison to the alternative. The art of the deal.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:37 pm to wmr
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What's more true is that people "like you" heard Trump say Mexico isn't sending their best. They're sending rapists, drug dealers...some of them are good people...etc.
It really wasn't the Mexican thing that pissed me off. More the Muslim family who lost a son in the war that he went after when he should have just ignored them. That was when I just said "Nnoopppppeee". And I was mostly on board after the Orlando massacre when Obama and Hillary totally failed to address the actual issue that caused it. Just shut the frick up when it comes to a fallen soldiers family, tell them you're sorry for their dead son, and move on. I mean seriously, how much of a better troll would it have been "I am sorry for your son who died to protect the freedoms of this great country and under me it won't be in vain" instead of taunting the wife about not speaking?
That was personally the tipping point for me, and save for shortly after the third debate, I really thought Trump had a 50/50 shot at the White House. Once the Weiner thing came to light (and in hindsight it's really irrelevant), I thought Trump would win the Rust Belt.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:38 pm to OMLandshark
You can't always get what you want, but well if you try sometime...you get what you need
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:40 pm to OMLandshark
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How true do you think that statement is?
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:49 pm to Rekrul
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You can't always get what you want, but well if you try sometime...you get what you need
No more appropriate song has ever been played at a convention.
And screw a big name entertainer for his inauguration. Get a Frank Sinatra cover band and have him sing "I Did It My Way". No one gets to sing that song more than Donald Trump.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:11 pm to OMLandshark
It's a pretty good high level summary quite. Positive or negative, he got your attention for over a year. He was initially not taken seriously by many, but he stuck to his themes and his message began to resonate.
He played the media masterfully and his team effectively tailored their message to the voters in the swing states. Plus, he flat arse out worked his opponent by a factor of 10.
He overcame many challenges, some self inflicted, but the fact that his detractors never really took him seriously played a huge part in their undoing.
Election night is an awesome memory and I so look forward to the inauguration and a Trump administration.
He played the media masterfully and his team effectively tailored their message to the voters in the swing states. Plus, he flat arse out worked his opponent by a factor of 10.
He overcame many challenges, some self inflicted, but the fact that his detractors never really took him seriously played a huge part in their undoing.
Election night is an awesome memory and I so look forward to the inauguration and a Trump administration.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 5:33 am to OMLandshark
quote:
It really wasn't the Mexican thing that pissed me off. More the Muslim family who lost a son in the war that he went after when he should have just ignored them. That was when I just said "Nnoopppppeee".
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Just shut the frick up when it comes to a fallen soldiers family, tell them you're sorry for their dead son, and move on. I mean seriously, how much of a better troll would it have been "I am sorry for your son who died to protect the freedoms of this great country and under me it won't be in vain" instead of taunting the wife about not speaking?
Very interesting that it was that situation which made you not like him. I, on the other hand, asked the same EXACT question of why this woman on stage did not speak at all. It was odd for her to be there if she never planned to speak. As a woman, it was very noticeable to me. Then when Trump made the comment about why didn't she speak...I said "Yea! I want to know that too. I was thinking that at the time as well!!". Therefore, I saw that situation as another lie/spin by the MSM/democrats (fake news) which were attacking Trump when he actually gave voice to someone like me. He asked the questions that I wanted to know. He gave me a voice & was attacked for it. The MSM is likely due, in large part, to his success.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 6:17 am to OMLandshark
quote:That may be because "the average Trump supporter" actually listened to Trump's proposals instead of MSM interpretation of them.
I don't think the average Trump supporter thinks he's going to export 11 million illegals and ban all Muslims
Posted on 12/21/16 at 6:23 am to NC_Tigah
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That may be because "the average Trump supporter" actually listened to Trump's proposals instead of MSM interpretation of them.
Yep. I honestly can't think of a single "controversy" where the quote wasn't hilariously misstated or understood in such a contrived manner as to be a bald faced lie.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 6:51 am to STEVED00
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He started off with big bold statements that slowly back off to much more moderate stances which is standard deal making strategy.
The most impressive thing he and his campaign did was understand which EVs were really in play and then focus his message specifically to those areas.
I agree with this. The Left and MSM inability to do anything but scream hysterically in response to Trump and his ideas quickly became white noise not only to his supporters - but everyone else.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 6:57 am to OMLandshark
Sooo...will he repeal Obamacare? Or was he just joshing? How about bring back American manufacturing? Was that a metaphor? He said investigating Clinton was very low priority... what happened there? I guess he's moved on from building the wall and have Mexico pay for it.
So what do you expect him to do? He made lots of promises, but you aren't holding him to any of them. Which promises did he really mean?
So what do you expect him to do? He made lots of promises, but you aren't holding him to any of them. Which promises did he really mean?
Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:02 am to a want
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Which promises did he really mean?
That question can only be answered by the Pelosi Doctrine. We'll have to wait and see won't we?
Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:09 am to OMLandshark
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I don't think the average Trump supporter thinks he's going to export 11 million illegals and ban all Muslims, but they liked at least the path he was going down
To be fair, most of his detractors don't believe that either.
If we exclude the mental children that populate college campuses, BLM and La Raza marches, as well as those on the other side whose instincts I trust more than their intellect, then I would say the statement is not true. Neither his supporters nor detractors take him literally, but they both take him seriously.
Progs know he can't deport everyone or institute a religious test, but they are smart enough to recognize and fear the feeling that generates those kinds of statements. They know as well as we do that this is a political war for the future and that Trump is a threat they haven't seen before.
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