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How the biggest internet providers are keeping a racist legacy alive

Posted on 10/28/22 at 8:40 am
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
2608 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 8:40 am
How the biggest internet providers are keeping a racist legacy alive





An explosive report from nonprofit journalism outlet The Markup analyzed data on internet speeds and pricing in 38 U.S. cities and found that AT&T, Verizon, EarthLink and CenturyLink all disproportionately offered lower-income and less-white neighborhoods slower internet for the same price that nearby whiter, wealthier neighborhoods paid for faster speeds. Discriminating against those communities by charging them more for the internet is digital redlining, and it’s yet another example of the technology and telecommunications industry’s ability to entrench and amplify social inequities.

The Markup found that AT&T, Verizon, EarthLink and CenturyLink all disproportionately offered lower-income and less-white neighborhoods slower internet for the same price that nearby whiter, wealthier neighborhoods paid for faster speeds.



The pandemic has shown us how absolutely critical internet access is, especially for already vulnerable communities, and the government needs to step up and do more to eliminate the digital divide and to prevent and solve for the harms of digital discrimination. The Federal Communications Commission is the agency best poised to create and enforce rules on this matter, and the agency promised to look into this exact issue earlier this year.

Historically, redlining refers to a now-illegal practice in which banks would refuse mortgages to poor areas or areas with more Black or brown people. Digital redlining is a newer, technologically driven form of discrimination that results in companies providing better services to people with more wealth or who live in whiter areas. The Markup’s report found that the telecom companies were engaging in discriminatory practices that actually mapped pretty closely to historical redlining.

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Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68299 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 8:43 am to
Were the white neighborhoods buying more (as a % of total houses) so it made more economic sense to provide better service?

We're fiberoptics available in all areas?

Not saying it isn't true, but there are more things to look at
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 8:44 am
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 8:45 am to
Hmmmmm...whenever I've looked to switch internet/cable providers, I just get online and all the prices are published for everyone to see. Everyone gets the same price/bonuses.

As most of these bonus plans are for two years, most of us just switch up every two years.

I've never seen a "Black Price" and a "White Price". Any difference between geographic areas has to do with the local government limiting access or only letting select providers in a particular area. Of course, these local politicians usually get something in return -- like sitting in the cable companies suite at a local sporting event. BUT, I've never seen anyone getting a special "White Price" even in these situations.
Posted by jpatrick
Chicago
Member since May 2008
161 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:39 am to
It's not the price it's the speed. Prices are the same in both neighborhoods but according to this study the cable companies are slowing down the speed
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14260 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:02 am to
Were the less-white neighborhood residents paying those higher prices or were they being paid by taxpayers through government programs to provide connectivity to those folks? We’re the providers inflating prices because the government doesn’t normally look at the price tag too closely?

The real outrage should be from the residents of the whiter neighborhoods who have to pay for their own access and then also pay artificially inflated prices for access in other neighborhoods.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12607 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:04 am to
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Not saying it isn't true, but there are more things to look at


There is always more to look at. These lazy, garbage “journalists” just never do it. They put out this divisive trash and then enjoy what they complain about.

It’s why I have shut national media completely off. Done.
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 10:05 am
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
1987 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:10 am to
"reporters" troll geographic information databases looking for disparities of all types to try and divide Americans.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2157 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:18 am to
Speculating. But assume it is more costly to upgrade line in older and more urbanized neighborhoods. Compared to newer housing developments.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1586 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:37 am to
They are not slowing down the speed, the infrastructure is slow. They haven't had high speed line ran to those neighborhoods.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:06 pm to
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But assume it is more costly to upgrade line in older and more urbanized neighborhoods.


It is because you don't want to accidentally cut a line and have 911 service knocked out.

Also you have to constantly buy more line because some of it gets stolen by the future college professors paying for their tuition.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:21 pm to
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AT&T, Verizon, EarthLink and CenturyLink all disproportionately offered lower-income and less-white neighborhoods slower internet for the same price that nearby whiter, wealthier neighborhoods paid for faster speeds.
Not good if true. I'm not willing to take Julia Angwin's word for this though, any more than I was willing to take Kara Swisher's word for Fetterman's unaffected ability to communicate. The latter was a demonstrable baldfaced lie.
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 12:22 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59815 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:22 pm to
It's absolutely uncanny how the blue check MSM has managed to find "raaaaaaaaacism" everywhere they seek it out.
Posted by Iron Lion
Sipsey
Member since Nov 2014
11807 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:22 pm to
I pay more for internet because I live in the sticks.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42573 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:25 pm to
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The real outrage should be from the residents of the whiter neighborhoods who have to pay for their own access and then also pay artificially inflated prices for access in other neighborhoods.

this is the most rational analysis
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59815 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:26 pm to
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The real outrage should be from the residents of the whiter neighborhoods who have to pay for their own access and then also pay artificially inflated prices for access in other neighborhoods.

These Universal Access fees are garbage.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71032 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:28 pm to
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AT&T, Verizon


Cancel them!

(Make the enemy live up to his own rules.)
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42573 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:28 pm to
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managed to find "raaaaaaaaacism" everywhere they seek it out.

surprised they have never stumbled across the correlation between welfare, unwed mothers, and skin color on crime statistics
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