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re: How many times are we gonna die of climate change?

Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25563 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:55 pm to

Sad to see such a chad like Shat go down this road.


He's simply wrong on this.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26406 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:56 pm to
The North Pacific is heating up at an unprecedented pace. Salmon are getting scarce in the Gulf of Alaska; grizzlies are getting hungry
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7591 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:02 pm to
Not sure, but in 1976 "they" told me we would be out of oil before I would get my drivers license. That's a real downer to tell a six-year old.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4326 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:04 pm to
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No one ever said we’d be dead by now.


Nobody?


1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years [by 1985 or 2000] unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

2. “We are in an environmental crisis that threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”

4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 issue of Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years [by 1980].”

5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”

7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.

8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China, and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”

Note: The prediction of famine in South America is partly true, but only in Venezuela and only because of socialism, not for environmental reasons.

9. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

10. Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

11. Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.

12. Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.

13. Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980 when it might level out. (Note: According to the most recent CDC report, life expectancy in the US is 78.6 years).

14. Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000 if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say,`I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’”

Note: Global oil production last year at about 95M barrels per day (bpd) was double the global oil output of 48M bpd around the time of the first Earth Day in 1970.

15. Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated that humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.

16. Sen. Gaylord Nelson wrote in Look, “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

17. In 1975, Paul Ehrlich predicted that “since more than nine-tenths of the original tropical rainforests will be removed in most areas within the next 30 years or so [by 2005], it is expected that half of the organisms in these areas will vanish with it.”

18. Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an Ice Age.”
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4326 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:06 pm to
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Education is important.


It sure is.

Especially educating yourself about a false statement you're about to make while calling other people stupid.

You moron.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20273 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:06 pm to
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The North Pacific is heating up at an unprecedented pace. Salmon are getting scarce in the Gulf of Alaska; grizzlies are getting hungry


But even if your assertion is correct, there is ying/yang cyclical elements to this. So whereas one region might be warming, others are cooling. It’s just like we get differing temperatures in ocean waters that vary causing El Niño and La Niña. We have an oscillation effect with pressure ridging and such. You see it most every day in the US. It’s either cold in the east and warm in the west or vice versa until a weather pattern change happens with a storm system for example or a high pressure ridge digging in.

I chuckle when I hear folks go on about having a warm winter and it must be a sign of climate change and yet a few states over, odds are they had a cold as arse winter and bitching about that. You climate alarmists can fool yourselves if you want. The problem comes when you try to frick up my good time with your foolishness…because I don’t mind telling you I think for myself and it really chafes my arse when your chicken little lemming shite is crammed down my throat. Screw that!
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 6:08 pm
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13215 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:16 pm to
All I know is if I go back to the late seventies or eighties I should have froze to death four times, drowned hundreds, and burst into flames at least twice
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29232 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:34 pm to
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Education is important.


So is a set of balls.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101732 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:35 pm to
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So you just ignore the entire last year’s worth of data.


The funny thing is, you could take last year’s and the past 500 years’ and they are both about as statistically significant as each other.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26804 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:37 pm to
As many times as it takes!!!!!!!!!

Just pay the tax and eat the bugs.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 6:37 pm
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26406 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:01 pm to
You can't deny the misery that nearly the entire 48 contiguous states suffered this past summer, from mid-June to late September. The southern half of the country baked under a heat dome. Phoenix suffered 31 straight days of 110°+ and Houston set a record of 46 100°+ days, and two straight MONTHS of no rainfall during that stretch. And at the same time, much of the northern half of the US was plagued with constant storms, flooding, derechos and tornadoes.
Posted by GBPackTigers
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2009
1103 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:04 pm to
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The North Pacific is heating up at an unprecedented pace. Salmon are getting scarce in the Gulf of Alaska; grizzlies are getting hungry


You are such a liar like your overlords. Went salmon fishing with a guide this summer up there and he said there is an over abundance of salmon right now. Man you have no clue
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3640 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:08 pm to
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The North Pacific is heating up at an unprecedented pace. Salmon are getting scarce in the Gulf of Alaska; grizzlies are getting hungry


And would we like to blame that on us puny, insignificant humans (in the big scheme of things) or that big, gigantic ball of fire in the sky we call the Sun and it's release of energy in a cyclical manner?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3640 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:11 pm to
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Phoenix suffered 31 straight days of 110°+ and Houston set a record of 46 100°+ days

And in 1981, Memphis went something like 33 straight days of over 100 degrees and this year we had a grand total of 3. What exactly is your point? That it gets hot in the summer and hotter in some summers than others? Because... well... duh...


But I'll give you this... if you say "suffered" instead of "had over" it certainly makes it much scarier sounding.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
Member since Sep 2020
3687 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:19 pm to
The hottest decade on record happened in the 1930s when industrialized economies were crippled by a depression.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3640 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:23 pm to
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Education is important.


And apparently, you could use some.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49943 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:26 pm to
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Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
1901 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:48 pm to
Uh, excuse you, it’s “Human-made climate change” this month, don’t you make the mistake again.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3640 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:29 pm to
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it’s “Human-made climate change” this month, don’t you make the mistake again.


So the farting cows had NOTHING to do with it??
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